2013/8/20 Frank Warmerdam <[email protected]> > > Jurgen / Steve, > > I haven't followed this discussion as closely as I likely ought to have, > but I'll make a few notes: > > 1) I'm not particularly interested in showing free software licenses in > the OSGeo4W installer. I'm only showing the proprietary ones because it is > required to avoid legal liability. I am not aware of us having any > obligation to show free software licenses. If anything I *like* the fact > that users are forced through some agree-to-license-misery for proprietary > licenses which emphasizes how lame they are and celebrates the awesomeness > of no bull free software. > > 2) I'm a bit dubious about md5sum's for merging same licenses into one > request, but since I'm not worried about non-free licenses it isn't an > issue for me. > > 3) I'd rather not use automatic pdf conversion to text. This process only > has to be done once per package, and I'd rather have a human review the > text-ified version and ensure that its still captures the original > agreement in a reasonable form. > > I think the first automatic conversion help us but now I will give them a good format because some characteres are strange
Best regards, > Frank > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jürgen E. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> On Mon, 12. Aug 2013 at 13:25:47 -0500, Lord Flaubert Steve Ataucuri Cruz >> wrote: >> > > Also included are license files for most packages >> ($pkg-$ver-$pver.txt, but >> > > also *.pdf and *.rtf) - for free and non-free licensed packages. >> >> > Actually the installer only support a txt file as a license >> >> Sure. But the ECW license is in RTF and the MrSID license is in PDF. >> >> I suppose pdftotext and catdoc do a good enough job to produce plain text >> from >> those. >> >> >> > > As you might notice I didn't differentiate between free and non-free >> > > licenses. And therefore there are a lot of licenses the installer >> will >> > > show and request to accept. >> >> > It wasn't the idea, the installer only will show a license for >> restrictive >> > packages , there are only three or four packages. Only few packages >> will have >> > "license" entry in "setup.ini" file, not all. >> >> Sure, but I feel that it somewhat belittles the free licenses. >> >> >> > > I thought the md5sum would help to identify where the same license >> applies, >> > > but I just notices that it doesn't even work for the GPL (lots of >> minor >> < > difference in the files). So that would need a different approach. >> Any >> > > thoughts? >> >> > I don't understand you how md5sum might help to licenses, could you >> explain >> > us in more detail way, please? or someone could give us another point of >> > view. >> >> Same license. Same file content. Same md5sum. In that case we could >> have >> just determine which packages share the same license by md5sum and >> display each >> license only once with a list of packages that share it. >> >> But unfortunately the md5sums don't match in setup.ini although the >> licenses >> are virtually the same (except for the FSF address, blanks, formfeeds and >> stuff >> like that). So that doesn't work. >> >> Some of the free packages don't even contain the full license text and >> only >> reference the well known license (e.g. available form OSI, >> http://opensource.org/licenses/). So the current license files could >> be well >> replaced with a pointer to that site. >> >> Any maybe there should be another field in the setup.ini that tells us if >> a >> license must be explicitly accepted. >> >> >> > > More installer observations (probably at least partly already on >> Steve's >> > > todo list): >> >> > Thanks by your feedback I am working on it today >> >> > > - the license display widget doesn't resize in the installer >> >> > Done >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> > > - Line breaks don't show well >> > > - Apparently the license display is (sometimes?) truncated and shows >> junk >> > > at the end. >> > > - It doesn't track licenses that have already been agreed to (ie. on >> > > reinstall). >> > > - Maybe we should also store them somewhere and produce license >> shortcuts >> > > in the program group (or just one to the directory). >> > > - How should non-text licenses (PDF, RTF) be handled? I suppose we >> could >> > > just convert them to .txt in regen.sh. >> >> > Yes I think it should be convert to .txt I dont know if it is easy to >> do. >> >> Ok, I'll do that tomorrow then. >> >> >> > > - The program group name is not configurable (ie. OSGEO4W_STARTMENU) >> multiple >> > > OSGeo4W installs overwrite each others shortcuts. >> >> > > For the QGIS standalone installer I was planning to collect all the >> license >> > > files into one LICENSE.txt that is presented on install. Maybe >> that's also >> > > an approach for the osgeo4w installer. Collect the licenses, >> present them >> > > in a large scrollable list and allow to accept them all at once. >> >> > My mentor Frank told me this process had to do for each restrictive >> package >> > but it can work if you collect all licenses files into one license. >> >> Question is if that's a better approach for the osgeo4w installer or not. >> >> >> Jürgen >> >> -- >> Jürgen E. 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