Hi Angelos, I've added the VM conversion details to the pull request. There is quite a lot of content in the Hyper-V page so adding it to the VirtualBox page may make it more confusing (in my view). A link to the page on the Virtual Box page rather than the main index should be enough without cluttering up the main index? Also to note there seems to be a CSS issue with code directives in lists (they are indented too far to the right).You can see an example of this at https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/istsos_quickstart.html - in the "Add new observations" section.Removing the li div.highlight class from the overview.css file fixes thishttps://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/_themes/overview/static/overview.css Should I include this as part of the pull request or make a new issue/pull request? Seth
-- web:http://geographika.co.uk twitter: @geographika On Thu, May 17, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > Hi Seth, > > Thank for the pull request. I actually had in mind that you would > describe how to convert the image to the hyper-V format and add this > as a section in the generic virtualization quickstart...> Do others feel we > should include a new page for Hyper-V? > Personally I would like to avoid duplication of data on SF (those > guys are very kind with us and the disk space we occupy on their > mirrors so far).> > Best, > Angelos > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:42 AM, Seth G > <[email protected]> wrote:>> __ >> Hi Angelos/list, >> >> Pull request created at >> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/371 - as its my first >> contribution to the project please let me know if there are any steps >> I've missed out.>> The quickstart would rely on a converted vhdx disk image. >> The >> conversion process is probably too complicated to put in a >> quickstart guide.>> Let me know if I can help creating/uploading a converted >> vhdx to >> SourceForge.>> >> On a separate note the wiki page at >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive seemed to have broken links to >> this mailing list. I updated them, but not sure if this had to be >> reviewed first. I'm happy to revert if this is the case.>> >> Seth >> >> -- >> web:http://geographika.co.uk >> twitter: @geographika >> >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >>> Thanks for the feedback Seth. >>> >>> I think it would be valuable to document the above steps in our VM >>> Quickstart on a section for Hyper-V users.>>> >>> https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html>>> >>> Best, >>> Angelos >>> >>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Seth G <[email protected]> >>> wrote:>>>> Hi Brian, >>>> >>>> Thanks for getting back to me. I've been trying out the conversion >>>> process using MS tools to avoid reliance on software, that whilst >>>> currently free, may not be in the future (the >>>> https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter). Full steps are at the >>>> end of the email.>>>> >>>> I'm fine with disabling Hyper-V for upcoming workshops - but it may >>>> make things a little easier for users in Windows environments to >>>> work directly with Hyper-V in the future.>>>> >>>> The resultant .vhdx file is 10.3 GB. Using 7-zip this produces a >>>> 3.2 GB file. This is essentially the same as the VirtualBox HD >>>> file, but in Hyper-V format. It can then be used directly in Hyper- >>>> V on Windows 10 Professional (and presumably other versions). I'd >>>> be happy to create the vhdx file for Sourceforge and a Hyper-V >>>> installation page for the docs if people think this is worthwhile >>>> addition to the OSGeoLive project (and should be able to do the >>>> same for the v12 planned in the summer).>>>> >>>> One drawback with Hyper-V / Lubuntu is there is no equivalent to >>>> the "Guest Additions" of Virtual Box. The shared clipboard and >>>> automatic full screen don't seem to be available. It looks like >>>> this may be on the way later this year - >>>> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/virtualization/2018/02/28/sneak-peek-taking-a-spin-with-enhanced-linux-vms/>>>> >>>> >>>> Conversion steps for OSGeoLive 11.0 vmdk for reference are as >>>> follows:>>>> >>>> - Download the Microsoft Virtual Machine Converter 3.0 from >>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42497 >>>> and install>>>> - Download the "DS File Ops Kit" from >>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/dsfok.zip >>>> and unzip>>>> - Open PowerShell (with admin rights) >>>> - Run the following command to get the disk descriptor from the >>>> OSGeoLive vmdk:>>>> >>>> cd D:\osgeo-live-11.0-vm >>>> D:\tools\dsfo.exe .\osgeo-live-11.0-vm.vmdk 512 1024 >>>> descriptor1.txt>>>> >>>> - This saves the disk description to the "descriptor1.txt" file. >>>> Open this in Notepad / a text editor and comment out the >>>> following lines (using hashes). This metadata is VirtualBox >>>> specific and is not recognised by the converter.>>>> >>>> #ddb.uuid.image="0247ca9d-f9aa-4910-9e8c-1c14d83a7749" >>>> #ddb.uuid.parent="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000" >>>> #ddb.uuid.modification="81a1d704-3e4a-443d-a5ca-2fd085ba086a" >>>> #ddb.uuid.parentmodification="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000">>>> >>>> #ddb.comment="" >>>> >>>> - Run the following command to insert the disk descriptor back into >>>> the .vmdk>>>> >>>> D:\tools\dsfi.exe .\osgeo-live-11.0-vm.vmdk 512 1024 >>>> descriptor1.txt>>>> >>>> Failing to do the above steps will result in the error "ConvertTo- >>>> MvmcVirtualHardDisk : The entry 0247ca9d-f9aa-4910-9e8c- >>>> 1c14d83a7749 is not a supported disk database entry for the >>>> descriptor.">>>> >>>> - Finally run the conversion process: >>>> >>>> Import-Module "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Virtual Machine >>>> Converter\MvmcCmdlet.psd1">>>> cd D:\osgeo-live-11.0-vm >>>> ConvertTo-MvmcVirtualHardDisk -SourceLiteralPath .\osgeo-live-11.0- >>>> vm.vmdk -VhdFormat Vhdx>>>> >>>> Above steps based on https://stackoverflow.com/a/49768353/179520 >>>> and http://semantive.com/converting-ova-vm-to-hyper-v-format/>>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Seth >>>> >>>> -- >>>> web:http://geographika.co.uk twitter: @geographika>>>> On Thu, May 10, >>>> 2018, at 6:26 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, 10 May 2018 18:01:47 0200, Seth G >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> > > Hi list, >>>> > > >>>> > > I'm currently preparing a Python workshop for the OSGeo Ireland>>>> > >>>> > > > meetup, using OSGeo Live as the training environment - it is an>>>> >>>> > > > > exceptional resource. >>>> > >>>> > Hi Seth >>>> > >>>> > > Several users have Windows 10 Professional machines which are >>>> > > enabled>>>> > > to run Hyper-V, Microsoft's virtualisation software. >>>> > > If this is>>>> > > enabled then VirtualBox doesn't have a x64 option >>>> > > for creating >>>> > > new>>>> > > Linux machines. This feature can be disabled at the command >>>> > > line, or>>>> > > using the >>>> > > https://unclassified.software/en/apps/hypervswitch >>>> > > tool>>>> > > which automates this. >>>> > Either option requires a reboot, and means using Hyper-V VMs >>>> > would>>>> > require enabling the setting and another reboot. >>>> > >>>> > ok, new to me, but if I understand, Windows 10 plus Hyper-V has >>>> > some>>>> > 'features' which prevent people from executing a VM .. >>>> > a small tool works around this.. >>>> > >>>> > > An alternative is to run the VM under Hyper-V, but this >>>> > > requires>>>> > > converting the .vmdk HD to .vhd. There are a few >>>> > > commandline >>>> > > options>>>> > > and hacks around to do this but only the >>>> > > https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter option worked for >>>> > > me. The>>>> > > converted OSGeoLive VM then ran fine on Hyper-V. >>>> > >>>> > So, you take the VirtualBox VM setup, and then convert just the >>>> > disk>>>> > image ? and the result runs without more steps under >>>> > Hyper-V ? >>>> > >>>> > > Is there an option of adding this download to >>>> > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/osgeo-live/files/11.0/ ? It >>>> > > would be>>>> > > another large file to host, and would likely need to >>>> > > be done >>>> > > manually>>>> > > for each release. >>>> > >>>> > Yes, a new file could be added to sourceforge.. What is it and >>>> > do>>>> > we want it is the next part :-) >>>> > >>>> > > Are final builds / uploading to SourceForge currently a manual >>>> > > process?>>>> > >>>> > builds and uploads are automated with manual steps, might be >>>> > one>>>> > way to say it.. >>>> > What is the time frame for your setup? >>>> > >>>> > This is the first time anyone has requested Hyper-V support, >>>> > that I>>>> > know of.. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Brian M Hamlin >>>> > OSGeo California >>>> > blog.light42.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> osgeolive mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD >>> OSGeo Charter Member >>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Angelos Tzotsos, PhD > OSGeo Charter Member > http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos >
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