During the FOSS4G Oceania community day, Bruce Anger and John
Hildebrandt made great progress toward running OSGeoLive in AWS.
Bruce's notes are here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Hix3gAlOkbpyBj9EjOza-JLMEvS6l135Z-Hpuw7ZlU/edit?ts=5bf77367
James, your points are valid when considering setting up a production
server. However, if we initially limit the target use case to a
workshop/demo type setting, with nothing on the VM to be considered of
value, then I assume security should be able to be ignored.
(A future iteration could address security).
Brian, I probably should have been more specific about the use case I
was suggesting.
Cheers, Cameron
On 15/1/19 4:09 am, James Klassen wrote:
Technically, I suspect it would be relatively easy to convert the
OSGeoLive VM image into the formats accepted by various cloud providers.
My main concern is that historically OSGeoLive has been setup
prioritizing ease of use on a single user machine to let a new user
explore and learn the software with as few hurdles as possible. This
seems in fundamental conflict with best practices for putting a server
on the open internet (in the cloud or otherwise).
For example, we have easily guessable and well documented passwords,
generally permissive permissions in applications and on the
filesystem, unrestrictive firewall, way more than the minimum software
installed than is needed for any given task (increasing attack surface
area), ...
I think we would need to put some serious thought into how to secure
an OSGeoLive cloud image and what that might mean for usability.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 20:04 Brian M Hamlin <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All --
> creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance
It might be said that OSGeoLive is ...
- a flagship for OSGeo dot org
- a proof-of-work for UbuntuGIS integration
- a service to all of the member software projects, incubated or
others
literally multiplying the leverage of interoperable data
toolchains when combined
- a service to all of the science communities worldwide, in all
major human languages
- a service to students of all kinds, in all places touched by
technology
... others not mentioned
So, what might a "cloud" OSGeoLive be ? news flash, many
long-standing projects now
included on OSGeoLive are quite active in the cloud and continue
to be..
Major cloud players say - Ubuntu OS is the most popular cloud
service OS by number of customers
OSGeoLive is already an Ubuntu platform project. so ....
companies handling geospatial data chains are already using
directly, UbuntuGIS PPA to build...
Some.. but another fact .. Docker technology easily runs Ubuntu
PPA systems on a RedHat base, today.
The Docker container shares the kernel only with the host, while
the rest of the OS layers are Debian/Ubuntu.
Is there an economic arguement to be made, with respect to a
"cloud" OSGeoLive ?
I find many economic arguements to be badly self-contradicting,
when viewed broadly..
The OSGeoLive project has continuity and serious utility.. beyond
that, opinions vary widely..
Is a "cloud" OSGeoLive the right move ? with what resources ?
open questions
best regards from Berkeley, California
-Brian M Hamlin darkblue_b dbb
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:23:28 +1100, Cameron Shorter
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm really hopeful that we'll see some people follow through with
creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance which could be
spun up and
used during training sessions. (This could be a great Google
Season of
Code topic). I think this could be done with free developer AWS
instances, but it would be good to have access to budget if
required to
support a first deployment.
Also, it would be good to have discretionary funding to pay for
OSGeoLive USBs for conferences that ask for it during the
year. Maybe do
a print run of 500 to 1000 USBs (That would be 50 to 100 USBs
at an
OSGeo table at a conference/workshop/code sprint, for 10 to 20
events).
On 13/1/19 3:11 am, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> yes - it is time to think about the budget for 2019.
>
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