Hi Erwin, hi Toni,

that is a well known problem in the PDE - there are several bug entries
related to this issue in the eclipse bugzilla, e.g.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=148844 or
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=137710

>From my POV the underlying problem is that the PDE does not resolve project
dependencies transitively (there has been a discussion about this topic,
but I can't find the related issue anymore).

Some years ago Chris Aniszczyk blogged about an approach to define
"additional" dependencies in the PDE that may solve your problem:
http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/05/29/pdes-automated-management-of-dependencies/

Hope it helps!

Regards,
Gerd



2013/1/29 Toni Menzel <[email protected]>

> Quick answer to parts of your question:
>
>    - Prefer composition over inheritance. Just don't build on inheritance
>    and your developer life, not just the OSGi one, will be better ;)
>    - Avoid Bundle dependencies. If you encounter a situation where you
>    have the abstract class and the final one in same package you should carry
>    it around in one bundle. Otherwise just make the abstract one explicit by
>    giving it a separate package. (avoid split package)
>
> You learn this quickly by avoiding PDE.
> Toni
>
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> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM, erwin dl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I often encounter situations where a certain class ClassA in a bundle A
>> depends on a class ClassB in a bundle B, and where ClassB is a subclass of
>> ClassC in a bundle C.
>>
>> So it is logical that bundle B has a dependency on bundle C.
>>
>> But to get the things compiled and working, I am forced in such a
>> situation to also add an explicit dependency of bundle A on bundle C.
>> Even when not directly referring to the base-class in my ClassA...
>>
>> At least this is true in eclipse's PDE.
>> But in internal discussions here, it seems to be perceived as an
>> inevitable fact, independent of eclipse or equinox implementation choices...
>>
>> I would prefer that the implementation decision of ClassB, to inherit
>> part of its stuff from ClassC, i.o. implementing it directly itself, would
>> be hidden for ClassA and bundle A.
>>
>> I.e. it is not a situation where a kind of API is provided in bundle C,
>> and where bundle A would better use the API, and where bundle B provides
>> implementations as services etc.
>> It's a simple class-hierarchy set-up that exposes implementation
>> decisions and forces dependents to add a-priori "unnecessary" extra
>> dependencies...
>>
>> If someone has advice or ideas on this, I would be very interested to
>> hear/learn from them!
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> erwin
>>
>>
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