I don't think it was necessarily a deliberate choice.  But thinking about
this a little bit, it likely is necessary in order to simplify the overall
framework concepts and avoid having to keep in sync the security policy
with the rest of the system.  Services are event driven.  In order to make
this work seamlessly the framework would have to synthesize service events
to be fired to service listeners that are effected by a change in the
permission policy.  This would not be a trivial task during performance
sensitive area of the framework.

Also keep in mind that the issue with keeping the security policy "in sync"
with the runtime is not limited to services.  There is also the Package and
Bundle permissions that effect the resolution in the module layer.
Removing PackagePermissions does not immediately cause a bundle to be
unresolved when it is wired to a package which it no longer has permissions
for.  The bundle needs to be re-resolved (refreshed) in order to be
resolved correctly according to the current security policy.

Tom





From:   <[email protected]>
To:     OSGi Developer Mail List <[email protected]>,
Date:   12/03/2013 08:53 AM
Subject:        Re: [osgi-dev] Declarative Services and Conditional permission
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OK, thanks a lot for your quick answer.

I guess I'll have to develop a start / stop functionality into my
permission manager bundle then.

Do you know if this point is a deliberate choice from the specification or
just an unfortunate coincidence ?
 I'm working with Device Services (from Device Access) and use permissions
to restrict access to devices to specific applications ; restarting an
application to take into account a new device is feasible yet not really
convenient.

regards,

Pierre


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Admin

There is no permissions listener to be notified when permissions change.  A
DS runtime is not going to notice that a service is no longer visible when
permissions change.  Similarly a ServiceTracker is also not going to be
notified (with the adding or removed methods) that a service is now visible
or not to the BundleContext used by the ServiceTracker.  This means that
optional non-static service dependencies will not be dynamically injected
when security changes.

Also, there will be issues when taking away service permissions.  A
component Y that got injected with service X but then later service
permission for X got revoked for the bundle with the component Y will not
result in unbinding the service X from component Y.  If this is a concern
then I think you would have to detect which bundles are using the service X
and restart them to make sure they use the new permission policy.

Tom



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From: <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
Date: 12/03/2013 08:13 AM
Subject: [osgi-dev] Declarative Services and Conditional permission Admin
Sent by: [email protected]





Hi all,

I'm working with Declarative Service and I've just started to add security
to our development using Conditional Permission Admin.

There is a case where I'm not sure what is the expected behavior : I have a
component which declares an optional and dynamic reference to a service,
for which it's bundle does not have the necessary permissions : the
component is activated but the service is not injected in the component (as
specified in the security section of Declarative Services specifications).
Now, what should happen if the permission are dynamically changed and the
bundle can access the service : should the service be injected immediately
(as it has the dynamic policy) ? I do not find anything in the
specification about this question.

This raises another question : is it possible for a bundle (SCR or not) to
be notified when permissions have been changed ? Configuration Admin
defines a ConfigurationListener to be notified of configuration changes,
but I don't find anything similar for permissions.

Any ideas about these issues ?

regards,

Pierre Rust
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