Haha, this is great Peter, thanks! - Ray
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Peter Kriens <[email protected]> wrote: > Don't have a doc but I can give you some ammunition: > > 1) If they promise never, ever, ever, to throw an NPE, then you're willing > to discuss this case with them. > 2) It is a bit like SHAs, yes, theoretically they could clash, but life is > all about chances and I'll take the odds with SHAs any day. > 3) Assuming parts are perfect makes for -extremely- brittle systems. The > most reliable systems are made of unreliable parts. > 4) Tell them to shut up and use DS. This makes virtually use cases work > very well and the remaining are diagnosed. > 5) It is like fear of flying, after experience it will disappear. > 6) The dynamics in OSGi (should) reflect real change in the real world. > Would you handle that change better in a non-OSGi environment that OSGi > with its extremely well tested primitives for this? > 7) Could you make me a test case that shows the problem? (Dangerous, but > in general the test cases become really contrived, and if it isn't asked > them how they would solve it. They will either use OSGi's primitives or > make something awful). > 8) What are the consequences of a failure in that place? (You can > counteract then that an NPE/VM failure has the same effect, any system that > cannot handle failure is fundamentally flawed or of low interest). > > Or the final one: > > 8) What, is that true??? Oh my God! Stay there, I have to immediately call > IBM to tell them this so they scrap Websphere! They will be so thankful for > pointing this out to them! > > Or just let them read anti-fragile from Taleb. > > Kind regards, > > Peter Kriens > > > > > On 13 aug. 2014, at 07:59, Raymond Auge <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey All, > > Every other week a new developer comes around and starts asking those > smarty pants questions: > > Q: .. what about holding references, and bundles/services coming and going > during this time?? > > It makes me violent! > > Does anyone know of a document that discusses this topic so as I can > simply point them at it without having to enter into another often heated > debate about it? > > -- > *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> > (@rotty3000) > Senior Software Architect > *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com/> (@Liferay) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSGi Developer Mail List > [email protected] > https://mail.osgi.org/mailman/listinfo/osgi-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSGi Developer Mail List > [email protected] > https://mail.osgi.org/mailman/listinfo/osgi-dev > -- *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> (@rotty3000) Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com> (@Liferay)
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