I think any attempt to uninstall is way too over the top behaviour
particularly on expiration. We don't want to really alter the state of the
system that much e just want to at most stop the bundle from being resolved.

As for the resolver hook, I think this is the correct mechanism because
it's literally a failed requirement plus it won't matter which agent is
used to install bundles.

However, that does not address "expiration" of previously resolved bundles,
which I think IS ideally addressed by a synchronous bundle listener which
only unresolves the bundles having expired licenses.

So yeah, thanks for the ideas. I think a combination is ideal.

- Ray
On Nov 13, 2015 8:39 AM, "Thomas Watson" <tjwat...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Not sure if that was a usecase of SynchronousBundleListener or not.  But I
> don't think that approach is any better than the resolver hook.  Except you
> could uninstall the bundle right on the INSTALLED event, but that would
> seem to just throw errors back to the provisioning agent.  The Bundle
> object they get back from install will now be uninstalled.  That
> undoubtedly will cause errors when they try to start the bundle, but with
> no indication on why the bundle is now in the UNINSTALLED state.  If the
> agent is able to cope with this kind of behavior then it seems they would
> be far better off checking the license themselves either before or after
> bundle installation instead of with a listener or resolver hook.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        Peter Kriens <peter.kri...@aqute.biz>
> To:        OSGi Developer Mail List <osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org>
> Date:        11/13/2015 02:29 AM
> Subject:        Re: [osgi-dev] resolver hook for license checks
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> I agree, I think SynchronousBundleListener is better. (Wasn’t license
> management one of the primary reasons for this class?) This can prevent a
> bundle being installed and uninstall it when it attempts to get resolved
> and its license is expired.
>
> I’ve also once experimented with encrypting the class files and using the
> weaving hook. But I agree that creates awkward error reporting. And it
> might be expensive.
>
> Of course, just as the hooks, the Synchronous Bundle Listener does have an
> ordering issue. (One of the few good reasons for start levels.)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Peter Kriens
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 nov. 2015, at 14:43, Thomas Watson <*tjwat...@us.ibm.com*
> <tjwat...@us.ibm.com>> wrote:
>
> A resolver hook seems like a good option for doing this but there are
> drawbacks.  One drawback of this approach is that the resolver error from
> the framework is going to give not indication for why the bundle is not
> allowed to resolve, only that a hook prevented it from resolving.  It would
> seem a better approach would be for the management agent to check licenses
> when installing bundles and to not even let the bundles into the framework
> if they are not appropriate.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        Raymond Auge <*raymond.a...@liferay.com*
> <raymond.a...@liferay.com>>
> To:        OSGi Developer Mail List <*osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org*
> <osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org>>
> Date:        11/10/2015 07:39 PM
> Subject:        [osgi-dev] resolver hook for license checks
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>
>
> Hey All,
>
> We're using a resolver hook for application license checking.
>
> I like this since it's nice clean and stops bundles early and efficiently.
>
> However I'm wondering how other people may have done this!
>
> --
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