Think about application level security, similar to servlet security ?
There may be no need to do security at the JVM level in those cases.

Guillaume

2016-03-01 9:47 GMT+01:00 Peter Kriens <peter.kri...@aqute.biz>:

> So no security manager and you can still use the AccessControlContext?
> That surprises me and makes me wonder what it means? Without a security
> manager, I do not understand how the checks are done, nor how they can be
> enforced?
>
> Kind regards,
>
>         Peter Kriens
>
>
>
> > On 1 mrt. 2016, at 00:33, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > I will have to look into Conditional Permission admin.
> > I only use JAAS to do the authentication and make the
> AccesControlContext available on the thread via:
> > AccessControlContext acc = AccessController.getContext()
> > The nice thing is that this allows other parts of the code to do
> authorization decisions without being coupled to any special security
> library.
> > I do not use the SecurityManager.
> > The JAAS approach is already used in many places. For example the karaf
> web console populates the AccessControlContext  on the web console and the
> console. Karaf also checks the authorization of commands executed on the
> shell this way. CXF populates the AccessControlContext from the service
> authentication information. Aries blueprint can do annoation based
> authorization using @RolesAllowed.
> > So a nice way to run a bundle as a certain user would play very nicely
> together with these mechanisms. Of course you can already do a JAAS login
> with code but it is a lot of boiler plate code.
> > Christian
> >
> >
> > 2016-02-29 8:42 GMT+01:00 Peter Kriens <peter.kri...@aqute.biz>:
> > There is no standardized solution for this. In general, Bundle
> Activators are called on the thread the start method is called but this is
> not guaranteed and for DS you’er out of luck.
> >
> > That said, I am a bit puzzled by the model. JAAS is based on the same
> (terrible) security model the VM gave us. Why not use Conditional
> Permission admin to just manage the required permission for that bundle,
> that you can do standardized and quite easy?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >         Peter Kriens
> >
> > > On 28 feb. 2016, at 12:09, Christian Schneider <
> ch...@die-schneider.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > When working with JAAS based authentication it is necessary to run the
> code as a certain subject.
> > >
> > > For code that is called from the outside as well as from the karaf
> shell there are existing solutions to do the login.
> > > I wonder if there is an OSGi mechanism to do the same for code that is
> started inside a bundle. (Activator, blueprint or DS).
> > > What I would like to have is some way to say: The startup code for
> this bundle should run as a certain user.
> > >
> > > Is this already possible or would I have to create such a mechanism
> myself?
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
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