Peter:

I don't have any experience with enRoute yet (been using CXF and then
Camel's REST DSL), but I'll try to put together some nice examples.

On 9 June 2016 at 11:25, Peter Kriens <peter.kri...@aqute.biz> wrote:

> Isn’t this the beauty of open source? :-)
>
> If you start an OSGi enRoute example like the Vaadin & JDBC I can help out
> with advice. Any experiences can then be fed back into Camel.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Peter Kriens
>
> On 9 jun. 2016, at 18:00, Matt Sicker <mattsic...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I'd love to see better DS support in Apache Camel. Right now, the lack of
> support means I either have to use blueprint everywhere or some fun hybrid
> of some services being managed by DS and others being managed by blueprint.
>
> There's some experimental support for Felix's SCR annotations in Camel,
> but no real support for a proper DS version.
>
> On 9 June 2016 at 09:24, Peter Kriens <peter.kri...@aqute.biz> wrote:
>
>> Well, OSGi is a component model so it would be surprising if we all
>> thought the same, especially in open source. At least OSGi allows full
>> co-operation between these ‘camps’.
>>
>> That said, I think is quickly getting closer to the DS ‘camp’, Christian
>> seems to spend a lot of effort.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Peter Kriens
>>
>> On 9 jun. 2016, at 12:48, Milen Dyankov <milendyan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I "like" how someone described OSGi community divided into camps! From
>> one side, it kind of makes me fell better to know I'm not the only one
>> having this strange feeling! From the other side, it makes me sad that more
>> people are feeling this way.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Daniel McGreal <d.j.mcgr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That was me, and yes, that’s the correct interpretation - the feedback
>>> as several other contributors*.
>>>
>>> We don’t like to take the implied responsibility for maintaining jars we
>>> repackage ourselves with OSGi MANIFEST.MF headers for a variety of reasons.
>>> Luckily the situation is getting better, based on my experience.
>>>
>>>    - Generation tools are better, more convenient and therefore more
>>>    prevalent (thanks bnd-maven-plugin).
>>>    - OSGi headers are cropping up from source more and more regularly
>>>    (I’d love to see another scan of central to see how many jars supply 
>>> them,
>>>    broken down by popularity).
>>>    - ServiceMix provides distributions, though they sometimes seemingly
>>>    haven’t been tested.
>>>    - Karaf wrap means things frequently just work at deployment time
>>>
>>>
>>> Best, Dan.
>>>
>>> * Balazs, I’d meekly suggest grouping the ‘other’ responses and
>>> including into the graphs where significant. For example, Karaf shell
>>> clearly deserves a place if the extra responses were grouped, as does
>>> Vaadin for UIs, etc.
>>>
>>> On 8 Jun 2016, at 20:53, Balázs Zsoldos <balazs.zsol...@everit.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My guess is that OSGi metadata here mean the OSGi MANIFEST headers and
>>> the sentence mean something like the following: Lot's of technologies do
>>> not have the OSGi MANIFEST headers in their jars, but thanks to ServiceMix
>>> the situation is getting better (as ServiceMix re-packages many popular
>>> jars)
>>>
>>>
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