Regardless, should the best practice for providing osgi.contract 
capabilities be to only provide one capability per osgi.contract name? And 
use Lists for attributes where you want to express multiple version 
support?

I know for a fact there are Servlet 2.5 applications that will simply 
break if run on a Servlet 3.0 implementation.  If the best practice is to 
provide distinct osgi.contract capabilities for each 'version' then these 
types of user bundles will have issues binding to the correct contract.

Tom





From:   BJ Hargrave/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
To:     osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org
Date:   09/16/2016 10:08 AM
Subject:        Re: [osgi-dev] The JPA spec bundle does not work with jpa 
2.1
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As Tom mentions, when a bundle provides multiple contracts, the filter of 
the requirement only has to match one of the contracts. So adding an 
additional filter expression like (version<=2.1) does not exclude the 
bundle which also offers the contract at version=3.
 
As an implementation bundle, contracts do not really help you. They were 
meant for using bundles: consumers of the API, not implementers of the 
API.
 
The API bundle which provides the contract should probably export the 
packages with version(s) that the implemention bundle can import against 
to establish the tighter coupling between the API and the implementation.
 
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BJ Hargrave
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OSGi Fellow and CTO of the OSGi Alliance // mobile: +1 386 848 3788
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----- Original message -----
From: Timothy Ward <tim.w...@paremus.com>
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Subject: Re: [osgi-dev] The JPA spec bundle does not work with jpa 2.1
Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2016 5:16 PM
 
BJ - My understanding is that contract versions don’t work like normal 
semantic versions (if only they did…) and that version 2.0.1 may be 
totally incompatible with version 2.0.0. I therefore don’t think it’s safe 
to use a range like “[2.1,2.2)”. My understanding of their intended use is 
that consumers select an exact version of the contract using “=“, and that 
providers declare the versions that they support. What I’m trying to do is 
to work out what providers and substitutable exporters should do. 
 
To use a concrete example that actually exists.
 
If I write a Servlet 3.0 container, then I need to wire to the Servlet 3.0 
API. The Servlet 2.5 API will be missing interfaces that I need, causing 
NoClassDefFoundErrors, and the Servlet 3.1 API will have methods that I 
don’t implement, causing NoSuchMethodErrors if called at runtime.
 
I do, however, want the providers of the servlet packages to offer the 
servlet contract to consumers at backward compatible versions so that a 
Servlet 2.5 Servlet can be used on a Servlet 3.1 implementation. This is 
my understanding of why the contracts exist.
 
Therefore we have the following three API bundles, with contracts taken 
from https://www.osgi.org/portable-java-contract-definitions/
 
A (Servlet 2.5):
 
Export-Package: javax.servlet, javax.servlet.http
Provide-Capability: osgi.contract;
 osgi.contract=JavaServlet; version:Version=2.5; uses:="javax.servlet,
 javax.servlet.http"
 
 
B (Servlet 3.0):
 
Export-Package: javax.servlet, javax.servlet.http
Provide-Capability: osgi.contract; osgi.contract=JavaServlet; 
version:Version=3;
 uses:="javax.servlet, javax.servlet.http", osgi.contract;
 osgi.contract=JavaServlet; version:Version=2.5; uses:="javax.servlet,
 javax.servlet.http"
 
C (Servlet 3.1)
 
Export-Package: javax.servlet, javax.servlet.http
Provide-Capability: osgi.contract; osgi.contract=JavaServlet; 
version:Version=3.1;
 uses:=“javax.servlet, javax.servlet.http",
 osgi.contract; osgi.contract=JavaServlet; version:Version=3;
 uses:="javax.servlet, javax.servlet.http", osgi.contract;
 osgi.contract=JavaServlet; version:Version=2.5; uses:="javax.servlet,
 javax.servlet.http"
 
 
What imports/requirements should I put in my Servlet 3.0 implementation 
bundle to make it work? As a client I can use 
(&(osgi.contract=JavaServlet)(version=3.0)) to pick either B or C, but as 
a provider I need to match the exports from API Bundle B, and only bundle 
B. This is why I’m trying to further restrict the requirement to be “3.0 
or bust”, in an effort to exclude bundle C.
 
Regards,
 
Tim
 
On 15 Sep 2016, at 12:17, BJ Hargrave <hargr...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
 
But they are anded. So version=2.1 is the range[2.1,2.1]. This second 
range for version<=2.1 is [0,2.1]. So the intersection of those ranges is 
exactly 2.1. So the expression version<=2.1 adds no value.
 
If you want the range [2.1,2.2) then your filter expression is 
(&(version>=2.1)(!(version>=2.2)))
 
--

BJ Hargrave
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OSGi Fellow and CTO of the OSGi Alliance // mobile: +1 386 848 3788
hargr...@us.ibm.com
 
 
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Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2016 2:58 PM
 
That was my intention. If I am a provider of version 2.1 of the JPA API 
then I need access to types defined in JPA 2.1, hence the (version=2.1). 
As a provider of the JPA API I also need to guarantee that I don’t wire to 
some future, backward-compatible version of the JPA API packages, as I 
won’t provide implementations for any new methods, hence adding 
(version<=2.1). 
 
I see this as the contract equivalent of a provider import range (e.g. 
“[1,1.1)”), whereas the typical consumer range (e.g. “[1,2)”) is handled 
as per David’s email. I do understand that this looks strange, but it’s 
the only way that I can see to have substitutability for this API, or to 
have the API delivered separately from the JPA provider implementation.
 
I appreciate any further insight that others may have!
 
Regards,
 
Tim
 
 
On 15 Sep 2016, at 11:47, BJ Hargrave <hargr...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
 
"(&(osgi.contract=JavaJPA)(version=2.1)(version<=2.1))" will only match 
exactly version 2.1 since the next term is anded.
 
 
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hargr...@us.ibm.com
 
 
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Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2016 2:12 PM
 
Hi Christian,
 
Yes, this is a mess, and yes, it is hard. The JSR process has done a good 
job of making versioning as hard as possible!
 
For some extra help, bnd will do the contract import for your consumer if 
you use the -contract instruction (see 
http://bnd.bndtools.org/chapters/220-contracts.html). Contracts are the 
only reliable way for clients to deal with the inconsistent JSR versioning 
policies. 
 
I’m writing the following section because I know that Christian is also an 
implementor, and so needs to work out how to deal with the JPA provider 
side too. The information below is not needed by people who just want to 
use JPA in their applications.
 
Contracts work well for consuming the API in a client, but the requirement 
for providers that want substitutability (or just to use an external API 
bundle) is harder and I don’t think bnd helps much. To be substitutable 
you would need to write the contract so that you import the correct 
version, but not any version higher than that (otherwise clients may get 
NoSuchMethodErrors when trying to call API from higher versions. 
 
The following is my best guess at how to make the maximum number of things 
work!
 
The requirement filter looks very odd, and is expressed as follows 
(&(osgi.contract=JavaJPA)(version=2.1)(version<=2.1)):
 
For substitutable JPA 2.1 that works with current EclipseLink and 
Hibernate releases the metadata needs to be:
 
Export-Package:javax.persistence; javax.persistence.criteria; 
javax.persistence.metamodel; javax.persistence.spi;version=2.1.0;jpa=2.1
Import-Package: javax.persistence, javax.persistence.criteria, 
javax.persistence.metamodel, javax.persistence.spi
Require-Capability: 
osgi.contract;filter:=“(&(osgi.contract=JavaJPA)(version=2.1)(version<=2.1))”
Provide-Capability: 
osgi.contract:osgi.contract=JavaJPA;version:Version=2.1;uses:=“javax.persistence,javax.persistence.criteria,javax.persistence.metamodel,javax.persistence.spi”,
 
osgi.contract:osgi.contract=JavaJPA;version:Version=2.0;uses:=“javax.persistence,javax.persistence.criteria,javax.persistence.metamodel,javax.persistence.spi”,
 
osgi.contract:osgi.contract=JavaJPA;version:Version=1.0;uses:=“javax.persistence,javax.persistence.spi”
 
For substitutable JPA 2.0 that works with OpenJPA, and older EclipseLink 
and Hibernate releases:
 
Export-Package:javax.persistence; javax.persistence.criteria; 
javax.persistence.metamodel; javax.persistence.spi;version=2.0.0;jpa=2.0
Import-Package: javax.persistence, javax.persistence.criteria, 
javax.persistence.metamodel, javax.persistence.spi
Require-Capability: 
osgi.contract;filter:=“(&(osgi.contract=JavaJPA)(version=2.0)(version<=2.0))”
Provide-Capability: 
osgi.contract:osgi.contract=JavaJPA;version:Version=2.0;uses:=“javax.persistence,javax.persistence.criteria,javax.persistence.metamodel,javax.persistence.spi”,
 
osgi.contract:osgi.contract=JavaJPA;version:Version=1.0;uses:=“javax.persistence,javax.persistence.spi”
 
This is what Aries JPA and Transaction Control need to do when providing 
the JPA API, and it will be described in the upcoming JPA Service update. 
 
Note that all of this will probably still not help with JPA providers that 
have even crazier import ranges, but we do what we can.
 
Regards,
 
Tim
 
 
On 15 Sep 2016, at 05:15, David Bosschaert <david.bosscha...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 
Hi Christian, 
 
The portable contracts define how you should do your imports with 
JSR-based APIs, since they often don't follow semantic versioning. What 
should really be done is:
 
Import-Package: javax.persistence, javax.persistence.criteria, 
javax.persistence.metamodel, javax.persistence.spi
Require-Capability: osgi.contract; 
filter:="(&(osgi.contract=JavaJPA)(version=2.1))"
 
Note that the Import-Package in this case has no version associated with 
the packages. This is because there is no agreed semantic versioning 
associated with these packages. So providers of the JPA package can 
version these using whatever schema they want. 
Consumers bind to the specific version of JPA via the Require-Capability 
which specifies the exact version needed (not a range). Implementations 
list all the version numbers of the JSR-spec that they are compatible 
with. For more info see [1] and [2].
 
Obviously this only works when the OSGi-JPA provider implementation 
supports osgi.contract by providing the JavaJPA capability for all the 
versions that it is compatible with (1, 2 and 2.1). For older OSGi-JPA 
implementations this may not be the case as it may be that they predate 
the osgi.contract namespace...
 
Best regards,
 
David
 
[1] http://blog.osgi.org/2014/09/portable-java-contracts-for-javax.html
[2] https://www.osgi.org/portable-java-contract-definitions/
 
 
On 15 September 2016 at 12:31, Christian Schneider <
ch...@die-schneider.net> wrote: 
Unfortunately the spec only defines the jpa package properties up to jpa 
2.0. Do the OSGi specs already define JPA 2.1 somewhere?

I just checked some of the JPA API bundles and they provide very different 
package versions.

org.eclipse.persistence:javax.persistence:2.1.0 has 
javax.persistence;jpa="2.1";version="2.1.0"

org.apache.geronimo.specs:geronimo-jpa_2.1_spec:1.0-alpha-1 has 
javax.persistence;jpa="2.1";version="1.2"

Which of these is correct?

How would a client correctly express the dependency to the jpa 2.0 or 2.1 
API?
I see that there is also jpa=2.1 on the package export. Can the be used to 
describe the import?

Currently I use a version range of [2.1,2.2) in my own code. Not sure if 
this is correct.

I think it would also make sense to recommend specific maven coordinates 
for each persistence spec as a kind of offical spec bundle to use. Elese 
people might choose the wrong and end up with broken imports.

Christian

On 08.07.2016 15:41, Christian Schneider wrote: 
Done
https://osgi.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=189

Christian

On 08.07.2016 14:49, Raymond Auge wrote: 
Christian could you file a bug on the public OSGi bugzilla so we don't 
forget to fix this?

I wonder if the spec bundle should refer to javax.persistence via Portable 
Java Contract rather then by package version. We have a similar issue with 
the org.osgi.service.http bundle which I believe should also refer to a 
PJC for javax.servlet.

https://osgi.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi

- Ray
 

 
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