Hi Ray, I read the app note but I need some clarification. Couple of questions:


1.       In Liferay, we hot deploy bundles to the deploy folder in 
Wildfly/Jboss container or appserver using the gradle build script provided by 
liferay. I thought we could do the same on the liberty server since it already 
has an OSGI container.  Is the usage of the bnd agent running in the 
application server with a specific port the same concept as how it’s done in 
liferay 7.0 where gogo shell runs on port 11311? Do we have bnd agent running 
on the liferay 7.0 server? I believe the Jetty container out of the box comes 
with a OSGI container, is this true?



2.       You mention the distro jar should be re-created in case there are 
changes in the application server.  What are some examples of changes in the 
app server that will need the distro jar to re-created?


3.       What’s the difference between osgi en route bundle jars running in 
jetty container we have in the tutorial versus the bundle jars we build/deploy 
in liferay 7 running on Windows/Wildfly/tomcat etc?



4.       I see couple of osgi-liberty maven plugins when I go to create a maven 
project in Eclipse . Do you know what these maven plugins usage?



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5.       When I read the OSGI in IBM they don’t see they show usage of 
declarative service @Component instead they use  blueprint for registering the 
osgi services. Also, when generating an OSGI IBM project through eclipse 
doesn’t seem to use the @Active annotation for bundle activation.   Is IBM 100% 
on board with the OSGI Specification. ?


Thanks,
Kevin


From: Raymond Auge [mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 12:32 PM
To: Peter Kriens
Cc: OSGi Developer Mail List; Matthews, Kevin
Subject: Re: [osgi-dev] OSGI bundles install on IBM Liberty

I had actually made a mistake in the suggested `-distro` instruction.

I've corrected it in the app note.
- Ray

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Raymond Auge 
<raymond.a...@liferay.com<mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>> wrote:


On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Peter Kriens 
<peter.kri...@aqute.biz<mailto:peter.kri...@aqute.biz>> wrote:
I’ve added these points to the Resolve App Note. 
https://github.com/osgi/osgi.enroute.site/blob/gh-pages/_appnotes/resolving.md<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_osgi_osgi.enroute.site_blob_gh-2Dpages_-5Fappnotes_resolving.md&d=DwMFaQ&c=ewHkv9vLloTwhsKn5d4bTdoqsmBfyfooQX5O7EQLv5TtBZ1CwcvjU063xndfqI8U&r=wKHHp1xupEN1UoR2CPDlg9US2Vs3om5ld5YqSsWMQX8&m=HH8Gw-cn_T-kd6gx_j2BbQ-yDw3Q20TuuUT5AHmRGgs&s=5dgDiilIAAv4T5Pi2QAhoAIKfDx6C4voPPFXS-SftOE&e=>

Awesome!

Thanks Peter!
- Ray


Kind regards,

Peter Kriens



On 5 Dec 2017, at 15:46, Raymond Auge via osgi-dev 
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On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Raymond Auge 
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Hey Kevin,
Here's what I could find: "Deploying OSGi applications to Liberty" [1]
Now, this may be a little complicated by the fact that the enroute model tends 
to guide you to resolve a whole runtime. Meanwhile with openliberty or 
WebSphere Liberty you are deploying into a container which already "contains a 
lot of features".

The crux of the issue becomes "resolving only what you need to deploy". This is 
were the complication comes in. What you need at that point is a way to "find 
out what the container provides in a way that you can use this during resolve 
time".
Currently the way to do that is to create what's called a "distro" jar of the 
target container. This distro is a JAR file which provides all the capabilities 
that the target container provides at one point in time.
How do you create a distro?
1) install the bnd remote agent bundle [2] in the target container runtime. 
This will automatically open a local socket on a default port used to the 
remote cli next.
2) execute the following command using the bnd cli [3]:

bnd remote distro -o ws.liberty-5.6.7.jar ws.liberty 5.6.7

FYI, this "bnd" command is just an alias for invoking the executable bnd jar: 
"java -jar <bnd.jar> remote distro ..."


3) take the jar "ws.liberty-5.6.7.jar" create by that and place it into the 
maybe the directory containing the bndrun file which is used to resolve your 
deployment jars.
4) in the bndrun file add:
-distro: file:${.}/ws.liberty-5.6.7.jar
5) resolve... the result of the resolve should be the set of bundles you need 
to install to openliberty.
What you need to bare in mind is that the distro file needs to be regenerated 
each time the liberty installation changes in any significant way otherwise you 
won't get the real state of the system needed to resolve against.

I hope that makes some sense.

Let me know if the instructions were clear and if it worked.

- Ray

[1] 
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEQTP_liberty/com.ibm.websphere.wlp.doc/ae/twlp_dep_osgi.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_support_knowledgecenter_en_SSEQTP-5Fliberty_com.ibm.websphere.wlp.doc_ae_twlp-5Fdep-5Fosgi.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=ewHkv9vLloTwhsKn5d4bTdoqsmBfyfooQX5O7EQLv5TtBZ1CwcvjU063xndfqI8U&r=wKHHp1xupEN1UoR2CPDlg9US2Vs3om5ld5YqSsWMQX8&m=HH8Gw-cn_T-kd6gx_j2BbQ-yDw3Q20TuuUT5AHmRGgs&s=nvLyZLi-u2zZxyZDABhidNPzNiG4CP48UqizxJvO0uM&e=>
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http://search.maven.org/remotecontent?filepath=biz/aQute/bnd/biz.aQute.remote.agent/3.5.0/biz.aQute.remote.agent-3.5.0.jar<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__search.maven.org_remotecontent-3Ffilepath-3Dbiz_aQute_bnd_biz.aQute.remote.agent_3.5.0_biz.aQute.remote.agent-2D3.5.0.jar&d=DwMFaQ&c=ewHkv9vLloTwhsKn5d4bTdoqsmBfyfooQX5O7EQLv5TtBZ1CwcvjU063xndfqI8U&r=wKHHp1xupEN1UoR2CPDlg9US2Vs3om5ld5YqSsWMQX8&m=HH8Gw-cn_T-kd6gx_j2BbQ-yDw3Q20TuuUT5AHmRGgs&s=x12qd0weK3DYeQDv9V-GpTsZU5_Ms2xgIfXtjlSHFNY&e=>
[3] 
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Hi Tim, a quick question. I am learning OSGI from osgi en route samples. In our 
environment, our monolithic application runs on  IBM Websphere Liberty but I am 
doing a POC to convert to modular architecture then bundles to run on Websphere 
Liberty. Can I build bundles using BND en route from my eclipse and install 
these bundles on a Liberty server? I know liberty uses the equinox OSGI 
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