Former jihadist: "There is a violent streak within Islam. We need to be able
to discuss and . counter these arguments"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015787.php

 <http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001843.php> Hassan Butt appears to have
had a change of heart. "Former Jihadist Shares Inside Secrets," from
<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/23/60minutes/main2602308.shtml> CBS
News:

(CBS) A British-born Muslim extremist who admits to recruiting for
organizations with links to al Qaeda and who once called the 9/11 attack
"the pleasure of Allah" is now renouncing Muslim violence. In an interview
with 60 Minutes correspondent Bob Simon in which he calls killing in the
name of Islam a "cancer," Hassan Butt will also reveal recruiting and
fundraising techniques and accuses British authorities of having a
laissez-fare attitude toward radical Muslims in their country before the
London subway bombing.

Simon's report will be broadcast this Sunday, March 25, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

"What I've come to realize is that killing . in the name of Islam is
completely and utterly prohibited," says Butt. "And there's a big disease
and a cancer in the Muslim world . and it needs to be dealt with."

The former jihadist faces an obvious uphill climb against mainstream Islamic
teaching, the prevalence of jihad in the Qur'an and ahadith, and the
doctrine of naskh, or abrogation, by which often-quoted "peaceful" verses of
the Qur'an are superseded by later, more aggressive teachings.

Butt believes alternative voices can counter the violent rhetoric that
influences Islamic extremists like Mohammad Sadique Khan, the mastermind of
the London subway suicide bombings of 2005. "There is a violent streak
within Islam. We need to be able to discuss and . counter these arguments so
that we don't have any more Mohammad Sadique Khans," he tells Simon.

Those bombings, which killed more than 50 people so close to home, led Butt
to question the murderous practices for which he recruited between 50 and 70
young Muslim Britons for training in Pakistan. He says he turned away from
violence when no religious leader could give him positive proof that Allah
sanctioned it.

Butt says one recruiting tool he made wide use of - the one he says started
Khan on the path to his suicide mission - was arranged marriages in which
parents forced their sons into wedlock. "A lot of the guys I know actually
have become radicalized or initially took the first steps . as a result of
them being . forced to marry someone they don't want to marry," says Butt.
Their refusal to submit to their parents' traditions then drove them toward
radical Islamic preachers, who did not care who they married as long as they
were Muslims, he adds.

Once recruits showed interest in learning more about Islam, says Butt, the
next step was to enrage them by talking about the suffering of Muslims
around the world. Then a Koranic rationale for killing innocents would be
argued. Taking away the innocence of the potential victims was the next
step, says Butt. "[Innocents] become non-innocent and hence combatants and
allowed to be targeted."

Butt says he would never ask or suggest a recruit go for training to
Pakistan. "The network never pushes people in that way. We believe that if
the person . has the conviction himself to come to you and say they want to
go to training, then they are the type of person who will most likely take
that one step further and will be the reliable foot soldier for you," he
tells Simon.

Fundraising was also part of his job, and he says he relied on Muslim
professionals in Britain to whom he revealed the money was for jihad.
"Doctors. People who were businessmen, professional people, basically, who
wanted to donate substantial amounts of money," says Butt. Another source of
funds was drug dealing. Butt says he would offer Muslim drug dealers
"cleansing" in the eyes of Islam for 20 percent of their take. "As long as
the drugs weren't being sold to other Muslims. In fact we saw it as a tactic
of war. . Let's poison them and kill them slowly with this as well," says
Butt.

Butt also says that before the subway bombing in London, British authorities
had a lax attitude toward radical Muslim leaders, allowing them to
proselytize, raise funds, and travel back and forth between Pakistan and
London. He contends that both sides were aware of this as some kind of tacit
deal. "That was an unspoken deal, and as a result, what tended to happen is
the British government lost count of how many people were going abroad and
getting trained and coming back and going into operational mode as sleeper
cells," Butt tells Simon.

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