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Spencer at Middle East Forum in NYC


 
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Yesterday I spoke at the Middle East Forum in New York City. The illustrious
Pamela was there and has
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http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/11/monday-in-ny-wi.html


Monday in NY with Spencer

  (videos accessed by clicking link)  

As the nation gears up for the 2008 presidential election, the candidates'
positions on terrorism and Islamism are coming into focus, with major
implications for national security of the United States and around the
world. Especially of note is the vast difference in collective outlook
between the Republican and Democratic candidates.  The Middle East Forum had
Robert Spencer, the
<http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/102-2952978-9152928?url=search-alias%3
Daps&field-keywords=robert+spencer&x=20&y=17> prolific author, brilliant
Islamic scholar and theologian discuss this issue. 

So of course I ran across town to catch Robert. He was, as always, most
informing and alarming in his substantive warning. I cannot, for the life of
me, understand why he's not a regular visitor to the White House advising
Bush and his minions.  

I wound up commiserating with Robert after his remarks. We hit the streets
of the citay - lunched, laughed our asses off and strolled the electrified
streets of the greatest city in the world on a particularly spectacular day.
Fabulous, all of it. Thanks Bob. It was swell.

Some pull quotes:

"The Democrats has limited to statements more notoriously such as John
Edwards, "the war on terror is just a bumper sticker."

"On the Republican side there has been a little more realism about  the
issue most notably when Gov Romney spoke in a TV commercial about the threat
of global jihad and said this was something that directly threatened the
survival of the  United States. He was roundly ridiculed for this. Saturday
Night Live actually took the commercial and just put it to a laugh track as
if it was self evidently ridiculous."

Spencer was not endorsing Romney but it is noteworthy that he is the only
candidate to mention jihad. The WSJ actually ran a article about what a
terrible thing it was that Romney used that word.

"The war on "terror" is a complete misnomer. Terrorism is a tactic.
Terrorism is as old as war itself. Terrorism has been used throughout
history. Words matter. Our refusal to name the enemy is the fundamental
weakness which has so far has marked the prosecution of the war."The Bush
administration obviously has not wanted to focus more clearly on who are
fighting because of various sensitive political considerations in terms of
our Muslim allies and yet it has to be done. Someone is going to grasp
this."

On Israel:

"Much more urgently right now in these dark days .... with  Annapolis. No
one is making the connection between the jihadist intransigents of Hamas and
Hezballah and what we are facing in the war on terror in the United States.
No one undeerstand that The enemies of Israel will not be bought off with
this concession or that concession or this piece of land or that piece of
land. It won't happen. Because the Hamas and Fatah charters are both very
clear, that they intend to destroy Zionism, they intend to destroy Israel
utterly because, and this comes back to Islamic theology, it is the
offensive for any part of what is considered to be ruled by no Muslims. Once
an Islamic land is an Islamic land it is an Islamic land forever. So you
also see in the al qaeda  literature call for the Islamisation, the
re-islamisation of Spain under exactly the same terms as they're calling for
the destruction of Israel.

But these things are not being put together. 

Because in the US, in the public discourse, everyone, liberals,
conservatives, whatever --  is afraid with --very few exceptions --  to talk
about the actual ideology and the actual motives and the actual goals, that
the terrorists themselves have articulated."

There's much more.  Please listen and watch the video.
<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/files/spencer.wav>  The MP3
audio has more of the Q&A.
 <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/files/spencer.mp3>
Download spencer.mp3 


 



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