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From: Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [grendelreport] Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law B , If you share this don't use my name or any other identifier. This is an ICE fuckup. Understand this, manpower is a big issue, but ICE fails to utilize the manpower it has efficiently. ICE is scrambling to fully implement the criminal alien program (CAP). This program attempts to place detainers on arrested persons at local, county, and state prison facilities. An excellent and worthy goal. Now immagine how many local and county jails there are in the United States. There are as many as there are counties. Now how many agents do you need to cover the jail intake section in each jail 24/7. Inevitably you have people who leak through the system due to impossible manpower requirements. Does ICE have a backup plan to catch these swine at probation and parole offices. Nope. According to at least one proffessional organization of probation/parole officers ICE attempts to arrest convicted deportable criminals are dismal to nonexistent. Here's the issue: Aliens in the United States in some form of legal status such as permanent residents (green card holders), or students or specialized workers, cannot be placed in deportation proceedings unless they violate terms of admission. In the case of criminal offenses, this means a FINAL CONVICTION (all appeals exhausted). If such alien is arrested for a crime (no matter how serious) an immigration detainer cannot be placed on the alien at a jail until he recieves a FINAL CONVICTION for the offense charged. So if the alien is released on bond (and many are even for horrible crimes) and subsequently recieves a probated sentence (and many do, even for sex offenses, agg assault etc.) the alien never goes back through the jail so ICE has no opportunity to place a detainer after conviction. Now add to this the illegal aliens that commit crimes and slip through the gaping manpower holes in the CAP program. Now what can ICE do: ICE has over 70 Fugitive Operations Teams operating throughout the United States. They are mandated to arrest one thousand "fugitives" per year. They do a superb job. Problem is, the definition of "fugitive". An ICE "fugitive" is an alien that has been ordered deported from the United States with all appeals exhausted that has absconded/failed to depart. Roughly half of these targets (there are about 500,000 such fugitives in the U.S.) are criminal. The rest are the usual women and children and families with no criminal record. The teams are prohibited from targeting other than "fugitives". The convicted criminals on probation have not yet been put through deportation proceedings so they are not "fugitives". It would be a simple matter to unlease these teams on deportable criminal aliens reporting to probation and parole offices nationwide utilizing computerized probation records listing foriegn place of birth for targeting purposes. Unfortunately ICE bureaucrats don't want to "missuse" these teams by targeting "non-fugitives". The result is, alien women and children are being arrested while dangerous felons are ignored. Sounds simple right? It is. I did it for years before I retired and DHS/ICE let the legacy Customs idiots ignore this issue because such "administrative cases" are not complex criminal cases and therefore unworthy of thier attention. Tell it to all the dead, raped, and maimed Americans that are victimized by alien criminals every year. We have met the enemy and they are us. Nothing new. --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Beowulf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Beowulf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [grendelreport] Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:36 PM When are people going to learn that sanctuary, as well as any capitulation leads to disaster.... .this is NOT a gun issue. It is an ILLEGAL alien issue (as well as a gang issue). Dave Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer Thu Jul 24, 7:42 AM ET The scene repeats itself daily on city streets: a driver gets stuck bumper to bumper, blocking an intersection and preventing another car from turning left. But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them. The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law. The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, setting off a debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation. On Wednesday, Ramos pleaded not guilty to three counts of murder in the deaths of Anthony Bologna, 49, and his sons, Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16. Bologna and his older son died in the intersection on June 22. His younger son succumbed to his injuries days later. Shortly after that, police arrested Ramos, a native of El Salvador and reputed member of the Mara Salvatrucha gang, known as MS-13. Investigators believe he was the gunman, though two other men were seen in the car with him. The heinousness of the deaths has put pressure on San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris to seek the death penalty against Ramos. Harris, who campaigned on an anti-death penalty platform and has never pursued capital punishment during her more than four years in office, has declined to say exactly how she intends to proceed. "This case has been charged as a special circumstance case," making it eligible for the death penalty, spokeswoman Erica Derryck said. "No additional announcement has been made about this aspect of the charging." Ramos' attorney, Robert Amparan, said his client was not the shooter. "They have the wrong person," he said. Amparan declined to discuss details of the case, but he denied his client was involved in gang activity and said Ramos entered the country legally. Federal authorities contend Ramos is undocumented. The victims' family learned that Ramos had been arrested at least three times before the shooting and evaded deportation, largely because of San Francisco's sanctuary status. The policy, adopted in 1989 by the city's elected Board of Supervisors, bars local officials from cooperating with federal authorities in their efforts to deport illegal immigrants. Officials in the juvenile offenders agency interpreted the law to also shield underage felons from deportation by refusing to report undocumented ones. Mayor Gavin Newsom said he rescinded the policy regarding juvenile offenders after learning about it in May. The Bolognas' relatives say Ramos apparently benefited from the policy when he reportedly was convicted twice of felonies in 2003 and 2004 but never was turned over for deportation. "All San Francisco's sanctuary ordinance has done is bring violence and death to this once-great city," said Frank Kennedy, who is married to Anthony Bologna's sister. Kennedy called for an investigation of the sanctuary policy and demanded "prosecutions for violating the law." Meanwhile, local and federal authorities are pointing fingers at each other over Ramos' most recent arrest before the shooting. Ramos was arrested in late March with another man after police discovered a gun used in a double homicide in the car Ramos was driving. The district attorney's office decided not to file charges against Ramos, and he was released April 2 even though he was in the process of being deported after his application for legal residence was denied, according to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. San Francisco Sheriff's Department spokesman Eileen Hirst said jail officials faxed ICE on March 30 asking if Ramos should remain jailed. Ramos was freed after Hirst said immigration officials didn't respond. ICE spokesman Timothy Counts said his agency did not receive word of Ramos' arrest in March. He said the only communication received about Ramos was an "electronic message" from the sheriff's department three hours after his release. The case has garnered national attention, leading U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., and an anti-immigration group called Californians for Population Stabilization to ask the U.S. Department of Justice to take over, alleging San Francisco authorities have mishandled it. "Because San Francisco's political leaders have already demonstrated their willingness to act in flagrant violation of federal law, I do not believe that local judicial institutions can be trusted to fairly try the case or mete out an appropriate punishment," Tancredo said in a letter sent Tuesday to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey. Justice Department spokesman Charles Miller said he was unaware of the case and the congressman' s request. Miller said the attorney general routinely responds privately to such requests. Diana Hull, president of Californians for Population Stabilization, called on about a dozen cities nationwide with similar sanctuary policies to end those programs. "We need to remember always that a death-dealing policy like `sanctuary' hides behind the false mantle of compassion," Hull said. Nathan Ballard, a spokesman for San Francisco's mayor, said city officials were wrong to shield undocumented, juvenile felons from federal immigration authorities. "The sanctuary program was never intended to shield felons," Ballard said. "The policy was inappropriate. " However, Newsom "still supports the worthwhile aims of denying the federal government" assistance in deporting otherwise law-abiding undocumented residents, he said. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ -------------------------- Want to discuss this topic? Head on over to our discussion list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------- Brooks Isoldi, editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellnet.org Post message: [email protected] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** FAIR USE NOTICE. 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