Nonsense.  There is no such thing as "radical" or "moderate" Muslims.  Only
Muslims who believe in Islam and follow the Koran.  And the person Islam
teaches is the perfect human being: the terrorist Mohammed, a murdering,
raping pedophile.
 
B

Radical Islamic Networks in America             
By Jamie
<outbind://84/authors.aspx?GUID=88fb73c8-df72-4b9c-97f7-3cfb6de25bb1> Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, January 13, 2009
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Frontpage Interview's guest today is Ryan Mauro, the founder of
WorldThreats.com <http://www.worldthreats.com/> . He is currently a national
security researcher for the Christian Action Network and a researcher for
the Reform Party of Syria. He is also a published author, speaker, and
frequent guest on radio and TV programs. He can be contacted at
[email protected].

FP: Ryan Mauro, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Mauro: Thank you.

FP: I'd like to talk to you today about radical Islamic networks that exist
in the U.S. Tell us about them.

Mauro: Many Americans seem to think the War on Terror is a synonym for "War
on Al-Qaeda," but Al-Qaeda is just one small, dying portion of the entire
radical Islamic movement that seeks to enslave the Muslim community to its
ideology and attack the United States. Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and virtually every
terrorist organization has its roots in the Muslim Brotherhood, which can be
said to be the "mother" that gave birth to today's terrorists.

FP: Tell us about the Muslim Brotherhood and how it mothered terrorist
groups in the U.S.

Mauro: The group is radical Islamic in nature and has worldwide goals, as
repeatedly stated in its internal documents. It worked with the Nazis during
World War Two.

Armed with Saudi oil money, the group began creating a vast array of front
organizations in the United States in the 1960s. Members of these groups
then formed other ones, usually managed by the same individuals, creating an
impressive infrastructure of interlocked groups that work as one-all funded
by the Saudis, all refusing to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah by name, and all
closely following the plan of the Muslim Brotherhood. They condemn
"extremism," "oppression," and "terrorism" to try to appear moderate,
artfully using terms that are rendered meaningless by their vagueness.

Unfortunately, many Americans seem to think all extremists are as
straight-forward in their rhetoric and objectives as Al-Qaeda, when in
reality, Al-Qaeda is the exception, not the rule. These groups falsely
portray themselves as the representatives of the Muslim community, having
used their Saudi funding and international connections to become prominent
and the people that news organizations go to for commentary on current
events. They use the freedoms available in the West to organize, fund, and
do all the extremist activity they can short of actually committing violence
inside the U.S., although sometimes members of this group are found
participating in that as well.

One other network that deserves to be mentioned is that of Jamaat al-Fuqra.
This is a Pakistan-based terrorist group run by Sheikh Mubarak Gilani, a
blatantly anti-Semitic extremist who does us the favor of not hiding his
true colors. In 1979, he began creating large compounds in the U.S., using
the front group he established called "The Muslims of America." It's
uncontestable that this is a front-one compound at Red House, Virginia even
named a street after Sheikh Gilani, and a video obtained by the Christian
Action Network shows Gilani personally engaged in terrorist training, where
he instructs those interested in receiving training to contact his group
through the various compounds he made in the U.S. Although a number of
members of this group have committed terrorism or other criminal acts, it is
still not listed as a terrorist group.

The Christian Action Network is releasing a new documentary about this group
called "Homegrown Jihad: Terrorist Camps Around U.S.," which can be
pre-ordered at ChristianAction.org. The film is premiering on February 11 at
Landmark Theater in Washington DC at 7:30 PM, and it is free to attend.

FP: Tell us about more groups and if the federal government is aware of
them.

Mauro: Well, the government should be aware of them, since several of them
have been consulted by various government agencies and sometimes have been
used for "sensitivity training" of FBI personnel and law enforcement. But
let me first state that not all members of the following groups are
extremists, but it is clear the leadership is not moderate, and the groups
were founded by, and part of, Muslim Brotherhood.

Luckily, the Holy Land Foundation case proves the government is aware of
this group's links to the Muslim Brotherhood and helps us to identify many
of them, although there are too many to name and discuss here. The Holy Land
Foundation was shut down by the government for financing Hamas, and its
officials have been found guilty. Using the foundation's own documents, the
government showed that HLF was set up by the Muslim Brotherhood as part of a
"Palestine Committee" to support Hamas and to spread awareness about what
they called "the savagery of the Jews." The memo said that among the members
of the Palestine Committee were the heads of the Islamic Association of
Palestine, a group that was shut down for supporting Hamas. Top officials
from IAP also founded the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

The FBI wiretapped a meeting of Hamas members and supporters in Philadelphia
in 1993 where two of the future founders of CAIR discussed how to disguise
their agenda by sounding moderate and non-threatening. They said they needed
to form a new political activist group, and CAIR was born the following
year. From this information, and a lot more, the federal government listed
CAIR and the Islamic Society of North America as "unindicted
co-conspirators" in the terrorism financing trial, a label which they are
currently contesting.

The government has confirmed that the Muslim American Society was "founded
as the overt arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States" and it is
the one most obviously connected to the group. Their Executive-Director,
Mahdi Bray, visited Egypt in February 2008 to express his support for Muslim
Brotherhood. Bray also once was the political director for the Muslim Public
Affairs Council.

The government, FBI memos and internal Muslim Brotherhood documents have
specifically identified the International Institute for Islamic Thought,
Muslim Students Association, Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic
Society of North America, Muslim Students Association, and North American
Islamic Trust as Muslim Brotherhood groups, among many others.

It is worthy to note that these groups have not been kind to their moderate
Muslim competitors who more accurately represent America's Muslims. Several
CAIR officials have been served with a summons by counter-terrorism expert
Dave Gaubatz and his associates due to allegations from clients, including
Muslims, that the organization had engaged in fraud and racketeering. CAIR
has also rallied against anti-extremist conferences organized by the Free
Muslims Coalition and American-Islamic Congress, for example. No wonder CAIR
has lost 90% of its membership since 2001.

If people want more information on these groups or the Muslim Brotherhood in
general, I have an archive on my website, WorldThreats.com. They can click
on "Muslim Brotherhood" on the left or use the search box to look up more
specific information, where I document the group's activities inside the
U.S. and internationally. The Investigative Project on Terrorism has an
extremely exhaustive database on the networks in the U.S. as well that I
highly recommend.

FP: How extensive has the Saudi and Muslim Brotherhood effort in the U.S.
been?

Mauro: It's so large and impressive that any attempt to accurately describe
it sounds like conspiracy theory or alarmist propaganda, but there is
overwhelming documentation of these networks. Government officials
frequently meet with members of Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated groups, and
the influence these groups have is incredible, with the case of Stephen
Coughlin being a perfect example. Coughlin, a Pentagon analyst and expert on
these networks, warned against the government's embrace of these groups.
Coughlin's contract was not renewed shortly after he voiced his concerns,
provoking the wrath of Hesham Islam, a special assistant to Deputy Secretary
of Defense Gordon England , who was affiliated with the Islamic Circle of
North America and helped develop a relationship between the Pentagon and the
group.

Mr. Islam, it should be mentioned, had high security clearances and
reportedly sat in on top-secret meetings at the Pentagon. He left the
Pentagon after a report surfaced that he was putting together meetings with
members of the Syrian branch of Muslim Brotherhood and suspicions were
raised about the accuracy of his biography.

Another story should be mentioned. Abdul-Rahman al-Amoudi, who now sits in
jail for doing illegal business with Libya where he met with officials
involved in a terrorist plot, had met with Presidents Clinton and George W.
Bush and many senior government officials. For the most part, he was able to
pass himself off as a moderate, except for his public outburst declaring
support for Hamas and Hezbollah. Unfortunately, by the time he ended up in
jail he had already helped set up the Muslim chaplain program for the
Pentagon, as well as the Muslim chaplain program for our prisons. Several
groups part of the Muslim Brotherhood and/or funded by Saudi Arabia were
involved in these programs. It should come as no surprise that several
investigators have discovered a large amount of extremist literature in
prison libraries, and that many of the members of the Jamaat al-Fuqra
compounds in America have criminal records.

The Saudis also finance and control many Islamic institutions in the U.S.
Some studies have indicated that up to 80% of mosques in the U.S. are funded
by the Saudis and possess extremist literature, and many of the imams have
been trained in Saudi Arabia. Of course, this doesn't mean that 80% of
Muslims in the U.S. are extremist-the actual percentage of American Muslims
following Wahhabism or some extremist form of Islam is small, and Muslims
have often been the ones to provide information on extremist activity. Even
so, we cannot deny the depth of Saudi influence in the Islamic
infrastructure of America, which was achieved through spending a tremendous
amount of their money from oil sales.

The Saudis have spent at least $80 billion, probably more, promoting
Wahhabism and radical Islam around the world. One Saudi paper in 2002, seven
years ago, said that the Saudis had funded and/or built over 1500 mosques
and 210 Islamic centers in "the non-Islamic world." The effort is
staggering, and with that type of money being put behind it, it shouldn't be
shocking that Saudi-backed groups in the U.S. are stealing the microphone
from moderate groups like the Islamic Supreme Council of America, the Free
Muslim Coalition, the American-Islamic Forum for Democracy, and the
American-Islamic Congress-all of whom have been verbally attacked by Muslim
Brotherhood's affiliates.

FP: So why do we keep hearing that the Saudis are our allies and that they
are fighting Al-Qaeda? How do you respond to that?

Mauro: Again, this comes from the narrow definition of what an ally is.
Being an ally against terrorism is more than fighting Al-Qaeda. The majority
of terrorists continue to be Saudis. The vast majority of terrorist fronts,
especially in the U.S., are Saudi-funded. The vast majority of extremist
literature and preaching comes from Saudi Arabia. This isn't a coincidence.
And they can not be trusted to change their ways-after repeated promises to
reform their education system, the Hudson Institute found that Saudi
textbooks had not been cleansed of extremism in a report titled "2008
Update: Saudi Arabia's Curriculum of Intolerance." The Saudis were
previously caught lying about their reforms in 2006 by Freedom House, and
even after being caught the first time, they continued to lie.

Keep in mind, the only reason Saudi Arabia is fighting Al-Qaeda within its
borders is because the terrorist group began actively targeting the Royal
Family in 2003. Prior to that, very few observers would say Saudi Arabia was
a partner in fighting the group. By promoting radical Islam, though, the
Saudis still create the pool from which Al-Qaeda recruits come from, and
again, Al-Qaeda is just one small part of the enemy. Look at the Mumbai
attacks. One of Lashkar-e-Taiba's schools was funded by the Saudis, and
that's almost certainly the tip of the iceberg.

The lengths to which some people go to buy the line that the Saudis are a
true ally boggles my mind. I gave a presentation on this topic at a
community college recently, where one individual sought to correct me by
noting the Saudis' efforts to "rehabilitate" jailed terrorists into
peace-loving citizens. Obviously, he did not piece together that the Saudi
imams involved are going to be Wahhabist since that's the official religion
of the country, so how "moderate" are the prisoners when they come out of
this process?

FP: So what are the Saudis' objectives and what is the U.S. doing about it?

Mauro: The Wahhabists and Royal Family are joined at the hip, and in some
ways, have fused together. Much of the Royal Family is Wahhabist or at least
sympathetic to radical Islam. Keep in mind, the two forces joined together
in a tight alliance long ago in order to conquer rival tribes and establish
the modern state of Saudi Arabia. Although the Royal Family's lifestyle is
often criticized for its immorality, the Wahhabists pretty much control the
religious establishment and aren't going to jeopardize that by taking on the
government. Wahhabism is the state religion of Saudi Arabia and as such,
Saudi assistance to Islamic networks is done with the goal of promoting that
ideology and organizations friendly to their worldview.

The Saudi Royal Family doesn't only do this because of their partnership
with the Wahhabists. Their promotion of radical Islam creates a dependency
upon Saudi Arabia by such forces; forces which would otherwise try to
overthrow the Royal Family with everything they had. In addition, promoting
extremism internally allows for the typical scapegoats, the Jews, the
Americans, etc., to be blamed for all of the country's societal ills and the
Royal Family's failure at governance. Virtually any domestic problem is
attributed to the corrupting influence of the U.S. and/or Israel, thereby
debunking the notion that extremism is a response to Western aggression-our
very immoral way of existence, which in their view causes our sin to spread
among Muslims like a plague, is what they want to get rid of, not just our
foreign policy. It can be argued that U.S. foreign policy has provoked
anti-Americanism, but we must not confuse anger at America with the
extremist religious and political ideology our enemy possesses.

There are several reasons the U.S. isn't taking on the Saudis. The most
obvious one is oil, as the U.S. is so dependent upon the Saudis for its
economic well-being. The U.S. also fears that should the Royal Family fall,
even more extremist forces will come to power. Finally, a staggering amount
of people working in government, whether it's in Congress, the Intelligence
Community, State Department, or whatever, have received or will receive some
sort of money from the Saudis. Maybe they'll join a company that does
extensive business with the Royal Family, or they'll join a lobbying firm
funded by the Saudis.

Prince Bandar, the former Saudi ambassador to the U.S., once said "If the
reputation then builds that the Saudis take care of friends when they leave
office, you'd be surprised how much better friends you have coming into
office." Former CIA case officer Bob Baer describes the system as a
retirement plan for government officials. Some may work with the Saudis
genuinely seeing them as a good partner, but there can be little doubt that
the prospect of getting rich is luring people into the Saudis' arms.

I feel I must also mention that there is a pervasive tendency among some
academics and government personnel to view instability as always being a bad
thing. It makes sense. Pushing for change can result in unintended
consequences, and promoting democracy can be messy. Many favor the
predictable, simple policy of coddling tyrannical people rather than
trusting the Arab people, who in their opinion simply don't have values that
treasure freedom, human rights, and democracy. I disagree. I see subtle
beneath-the-surface signs of a movement for women's rights and
liberalization, and I think we need to try to strengthen this force, so that
one day we can stop choosing between embracing the Royal Family or taking
them on and risking an even more extreme takeover of this critical country.

FP: Your recommendation for the incoming Obama administration in terms of
how to tackle these networks?

Mauro: The first thing the Obama administration can do is outlaw donations
from Saudi Arabia by passing legislation that bans the funding of non-profit
groups from countries without religious freedom. If the Saudi funding dries
up, watch these Muslim Brotherhood affiliates reduce and ultimately
collapse, and watch moderate Muslim groups rise up. As goes Saudi funding,
so goes Muslim Brotherhood.

The second piece of legislation I'd suggest passing is banning government
agencies from working with groups labeled as unindicted co-conspirators.
Several of the top Muslim Brotherhood groups have been given such a label as
part of the federal government's case against the Holy Land Foundation,
which was found guilty of covertly financing Hamas. Some of the most
prominent groups, like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the
Islamic Society of North America, and the North American Islamic Trust were
given that title. With such legislation, those groups' involvement with the
FBI, law enforcement, State Department, or any other part of the government,
would end. And the government could then work with organizations like the
American-Islamic Congress or American-Islamic Forum on Democracy which truly
represent the Muslim community, and help elevate them.

And of course, we need to try to build a legal case to add Jamaat al-Fuqra
to the list of the State Department's terrorist organizations so we can get
rid of these compounds in America The tape of Gilani specifically saying the
compounds were meant to train Muslims in tactics of warfare clearly
indicates their original purpose, even if some argue they aren't engaged in
terrorism on American soil any more like they did in the 1980s. They are, at
the very least, radical Islamic compounds whose members often engage in
large amounts of criminal activity. We need to look at legal options to
either shut them down or make it as difficult as possible for them to
operate.

As for Saudi Arabia, the U.S. needs to pressure the country to liberalize
and break the extremist information blockade. It's time to allow for freedom
of press and religion in that country to allow for democratic, tolerant
alternatives to grow rather than be silenced and marginalized. The U.S. also
must, simply must, end its dependence upon foreign oil. Look around the
world: Venezuela, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia - their power directly
correlates to oil sales. Oil independence isn't only an economic imperative,
it's a strategic imperative. Oil independence is the game-changer not just
in the War on Terror, but in shaping America's future. It will dramatically
help our economy at a time when we really need it, and simultaneously
strengthens America and weakens every single one of our adversaries. After
World War Two, it was the atomic bomb that made us dominant. Today, it is
energy independence.

FP: Ryan Mauro, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.

Mauro: Thank you Jamie.

 
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