From: Travis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 9:54 PM To: Beowulf Subject: RINO Lindsey Graham seeks to limit Quran burning ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Scotty Starnes's Blog <[email protected]> Date: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM Subject: [New post] RINO Lindsey Graham seeks to limit Quran burning To: [email protected] <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/author/scottystarnes/> <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/rino-lindsey-graham-seeks-to- limit-quran-burning/> RINO Lindsey Graham seeks to limit Quran burning <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/author/scottystarnes/> Scotty Starnes | April 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM | Tags: <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=free-speech> Free Speech, <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=islam> Islam, <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=lindsey-graham> Lindsey Graham, <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=muslims> Muslims, <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=quran-burning> Quran burning, <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=rino> RINO, <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=terry-jones> Terry Jones | Categories: <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?cat=35145> Political Issues | URL: <http://wp.me/pvnFC-4X9> http://wp.me/pvnFC-4X9 Are you fucking serious. I hope the people of South Carolina wake up and get this RINO out of office. <http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0411/Lindsey_Explore_limits_on_K oran_burning_.html> Politico reports: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a military lawyer, is the first member of Congress to say the legislature needs to explore the possibility, however unlikely, of limiting some kinds of free speech - like Terry Jones' Quran burning - that help America's enemies. Ever notice Graham sometimes sounds just like a progressive Democrat? "I wish we could find a way to hold people accountable. Free speech is a great idea, but we're in a war," he told CBS's Bob Schieffer on "Face the Nation." Graham sounds like a Constitution-hating leftist. "During World War II, we had limits on what you could do if it inspired the enemy," Graham said, adding that he wanted to do "anything we can to push back here in America against acts like this that put our troops at risk." How about holding those responsible for killing innocent people for the burning of their "holy" book responsible RINO? Instead, Graham wants to limit individual's 1st Amendment Rights. April 03, 2011 <http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0411/Lindsey_Explore_limits_on_K oran_burning_.html> Graham: Explore limits on Quran burnings Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a military lawyer, is the first member of Congress to say the legislature needs to explore the possibility, however unlikely, of limiting some kinds of free speech - like Terry Jones' Quran burning - that help America's enemies. "I wish we could find a way to hold people accountable. Free speech is a great idea, but we're in a war," he told CBS's Bob Schieffer on "Face the Nation." "During World War II, we had limits on what you could do if it inspired the enemy," Graham said, adding that he wanted to do "anything we can to push back here in America against acts like this that put our troops at risk." Graham also continued his attack on President Barack Obama's decision to pull back in Libya saying, it "comforted" Col. Muammar Qadhafi and ensured a "stalemate" in Libya. Instead, he urged "taking the fight to Tripoli" - targeting Qadhafi's inner circle and arming the rebels with tank-killing missiles. "Well, you certainly made some news," Schieffer quipped after the five-minute interview. Comments: Reader Comments (43) Pages . 1 1. Limiting my rights because savages riot and kill on the other side of the world is obsene. Posted By: C.S. | April 03, 2011 at 11:52 AM 2. Sorry, but banning burning of the Quran but not the American flag, the Bible or effigies of the president is a violation of free speech and separation of church and state. It's also kowtowing to radical Islam and granting it de facto veto power over any Constituionally-protected action that it finds offensive. Draw Mohammed? Not allowed. Write a book critical of Mohammed? Not allowed. Criticize Shari'a law? Not allowed. And on and on into dhimmitude. Posted By: rwg | April 03, 2011 at 12:07 PM 3. Like Dick Turban, limp wristed Lindsay refuses to hold the animals who are truly responsible, the islamic terrorists who killed and beheaded those UN personnel Posted By: Graham, you're fired next time | April 03, 2011 at 12:25 PM 4. Lindsey is sure playing to the peanut gallery on this one. Or maybe he hasn't heard of the US Constitution either. If he hasn't, its about time he learn it. If he has, then he shouldn't be grandstanding on this issue where he knows the final outcome. Burn, baby, burn; if it is permissible to burn American flags as an expression of free speech, does he think some court is gonna say its wrong to burn a book? Posted By: OldeGrump | April 03, 2011 at 01:05 PM 5. I don't agree with destruction and book burnings however, burning a book, in no way, equals killing someone. What this Preacher shows us is how "Barbaric" Islamist are and their willingness to destroy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I say let's burn more Korans and force the hands of would be Islamist terrorist. A spiraling death rate is the only way to pinpoint the reality Islam teaches and strengthen our resolve to force Moderate Islamist to take a stand for tolerance of we bury them and their religion. It's a harsh thought but, it is reality. Posted By: romy | April 03, 2011 at 01:17 PM 6. Freedomfighter, the islamic lunatics who killed all those people are responsible, and nobody else. Radical terrorist jihadists would find any excuse, so If not the Koran, it would be something else, like a cartoonist. If they didn't kill a bunch of UN personnel, it would probably have been some 14 year old muslim girl, who had the distinct honor of being gang raped by muslim men, and was rewarded by being stoned to death. These islamic lunatics are evil. Evil must be eradicated, by any means necessary. Posted By: Freedomfighter, the islamic lunatics who killed all those people are responsible, and nobody else. R | April 03, 2011 at 01:56 PM 7. Sen. Lindsey Graham is a spineless, sniveling, girlie-man of a coward. To even consider giving up even one of America's constitutional rights because some whack-jobs in Afghanistan get excited only shows that as far as Sen. Lindsey Graham is concerned Afghanistan has won the war. This fruitcake is ready to buckle under on one of America's most cherished and valued freedoms and throw it under the bus because HE sees a few rag-heads raise a little hell. What next Senator, which of our freedoms would you cede next because some mob somewhere on earth decides to hold a demonstration. You are an un-American loser, Senator, and you don't deserve the seat you hold. Posted By: Seatalker | April 03, 2011 at 03:04 PM 8. Graham is a simpleton. Jones' burning of the Quran does not "help the enemy". They don't need an excuse to riot and kill. These animals are uncivilized and making nice is not going to change their fanatical culture. America will not conform to their bogus made up government/religion. Posted By: Cheetosareus | April 03, 2011 at 03:20 PM 9. There is no way you are going to be able to set limits on free speech - the burning of the Quran is free political speech. Not to say that it was wise, or didn't inflame muslims to kill people, but it is protected. Posted By: We The People | April 03, 2011 at 04:10 PM 10. Freethinker, are YOU the "WE" you are talking about? It's always the case isn't it? WE will decide what is best for you. WE will decide what freedoms are worthy. WE will decide what is and what is not a religion. WE will decide how much salt you will put on your food. WE will decide what kind of light bulbs you use and on and on.. No, freethinker, YOU decide what is good for YOU and I will decide what is good for me of ME. Posted By: Seatalker | April 03, 2011 at 04:13 PM 11. Will Graham simultaneously move to shut down, even criminalize the Trey Parker and Matt Stone's Broadway play "The Book of Mormon" that demeans the Mormon religion's sacred scripture and prophet? If free speech is to be denied relative to religions and their scriptures, it must be equally applied to all. Posted By: CAlib74 | April 03, 2011 at 04:15 PM 12. Muslims mass murder non muslims EVERYDAY around the world. They burn churches and books of the non muslims. Yet no politicians say a damn thing. These muslims are following what the koran spells out for them. Europe is waking and it may be to late. The US needs to wake up before it is to late here. Islam is backwards and will be till every koran is burned and it ceases to exist. Posted By: yolo | April 03, 2011 at 04:27 PM 13. The people who need to be schooled on social boundaries are not American pastors exercising their rights, however stupidly. Muslims who think it's okay to riot and kill because of a rumor that multiple Korans were being burned are the ones that need a lesson in civics, maturity and tolerance. When someone burns a book that is not the equivalent of killing innocent people. Instead, our transnational global libs take the jihadist side and suggest America curtail it's basic tenets, something more likely to fuel more jihadist fervor and sense of victory than the burning itself. Regardless of who burned what, Afghans who did this need to feel the full fury of the globe at their ignorant actions. Muslims worldwide should ensure this doesn't happen again, not by restricting Americans, but by teaching their Afghan brothers what's right and what's wrong. Every time they riot in response to half-baked rumors from illiterates, it makes it ten times harder for Americans to support moderate Muslims who say they're trying to make their religion evolve into the 21st century. Posted By Your desire to enable Islamofascists is noted Lindsey, but unfortunately for you, the US constitution grants protection to what the Pastor did. Right to freedom of Speech includes speech that someone may find offensive Posted By: Observer | April 03, 2011 at 04:33 PM 14. The Apostle Paul didn't have a problem with people burning their books of falsehood. Read the Bible - Acts 19:19 Nor did he worry about the consequences of confronting a society different then his own with the message of the Truth. In many cities where Paul preached, uprisings occured by men who wanted to keep worshiping their idols and false gods. Should we not tell people that Muhammad was a false prophet and that his writings are worthless, even if it offends them. And should we then not give them the one who is the TRUTH, Jesus Christ. I dare say that the apostle Paul would probably be considered a fringe, wacko preacher by tody's toleration of everything standards. You don't really love your brother if you aren't man enough to tell them the TRUTH. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq_2GP8csWE Posted By: Martin Luther | April 03, 2011 at 04:39 PM 15. Washington D C a hotbed of anti-American morons! Burn all the qurons, ban their ownership and deport all muslims and their pol friends. Posted By: Washington D C a hotbed of anti-American morons! Burn all the qurons, ban their ownership and depo | April 03, 2011 at 04:58 PM 16. Where are these cowardly pols when Christians are murdered by these scum? When the Bible is banned by muslim governments? Burn all Qurons and deport all muslims. Posted By: Where are these cowardly pols when Christians are murdered by these scum? When the Bible is banned b | April 03, 2011 at 05:10 PM 17. If a Koran were treated tenderly, wrapped in sparkly paper, and set on a bed of feathers, while the person setting it there expressed opposition to Islam in outrageous and insulting terms, would IT be protected free speech? Would Graham and Reid also try to stop this person from expressing his criticism of an ideology that is both religious and political and "find a way to hold him accountable"? Is a person destroying an inanimate object owned by no one but himself responsible for murders others commit because they are enraged that someone has the temerity to destroy a sacred symbol of their religion within the United States? It sounds like this debate is all boiling down to American politicians allowing or not allowing free speech based on the treatment of an inanimate, albeit highly symbolic, object, while avoiding placing blame on the actual perpetrators of the crimes because it complicates a war strategy. Attempting to stifle criticism of a religion has no basis in the Constitution. Posted By: EFoster | April 03, 2011 at 05:35 PM 18. Remember Graham's moronic comments and oust him next election. Any bozo who equates a peaceful political statement with the Dark Age Islamic reaction and who thinks it wise to side with unnamed "rebels" (i.e. Al Qaeda thugs) is mentally incapable of holding office. Posted By: D.M. | April 03, 2011 at 05:52 PM 19. Okay, consider the topic of banning any kind of expression explored... and let's donate the money that would need to be spent getting Graham's Foolishness before the Supreme Court to Nutrition Programs for Failure To Thrive Babies or Pell Grants. Graham should be ashamed of himself. You don't toss out the bits that you find inconvenient. Well you shouldn't... I almost forgot about the Patriot Act. Where did he get his Law Degree? Liberty University? What's next? If Jones and his merry band of illiterate book BBQ'ers want to make a point - about how much more they love their book, I suggest that they go on a Mission trip to some dusty, dirty corner of Afghanistan that is ruled by Jones' Intellectual Twin - and burn the books there. As the flames rise - the thugs who think that the correct response to a book burning is murder can riot and set **** on fire while Jones and his band of 50 toss fuel into the fire. At the end of the evening - we can do a head count - if there are more Illiterate Book Burning Zealots from Florida standing they can claim that their fluffy lord who likes to give rules to illiterate Goat Herders RULEZ - if there are more Rioting, Murderous Thugs standing then their fluffy lord who decided to retell the same fairy tales to yet another Illiterate Goat Herder wins. Either way - no innocent people have to die in the name of archaic, laughable nonsense and the rest of us win. Posted By: Daphne | April 03, 2011 at 05:53 PM 20. REALITY ------ these guys are preaching "kill Americans" ----- let's not get carried away with feeling sorry for them. Posted By: These guys are bad guys .... | April 03, 2011 at 06:03 PM 21. I was all set to blast Lindsey on this on so many levels, only to find that others have beaten me to it! Suffice it to say that I stand with those defending our first amendment rights. And I agree with their assessment of Graham's unpatriotic stand! He IS a DemoRepublicratcan! Posted By: jfhdsiu | April 03, 2011 at 06:47 PM 22. So someone burned a quran...big deal!!! I wouldn't do it, but who cares. How many Christian bodies (their own people) and Bibles have they burned, raped and pillaged in their own countries, thousands upon thousands. And they want sympathy from who...us??? I say pull out and let God take over, they condemned themselves already when they openly threated Israel on national TV. Believe it or not Muslims out their, our Christian Bible says " whoever threatens Israel is like sticking a needle in the apple of Gods eye". You don't have to believe our Bible, God doesn't care what you think at all, but it will still happen anyway.....as it is now. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that every Muslim country is going through turmoil right now. It's no accident or just some phase their going through. Posted By: sp | April 03, 2011 at 07:10 PM 23. Let's simply get ground troops out of Afghanistan and bomb them. They want to kill us anyway. Posted By: MainelyDoc | April 03, 2011 at 07:11 PM 24. THE MORE I GET TO KNOW LINDSEY GRAHAM THE MORE I DISLIKE HIM.HE WILL LET YOU BURN THE AMERICAN FLAG BUT A KORAN ,NO NO NO. Posted By: THE MORE I GET TO KNOW LINDSEY GRAHAM THE MORE I DISLIKE HIM.HE WILL LET YOU BURN THE AMERICAN FLAG | April 03, 2011 at 07:21 PM 25. Just an excuse for The GOP to get their authoritarian agenda sneaked in.. Nibble away at the constitution.. Posted By: protodan | April 03, 2011 at 07:51 PM 26. Miss Lindsey is all upset! I say, free speech should include tarring and feathering him/her and running him/her out of town on a rail... Posted By: Not Chicken Little | April 03, 2011 at 07:55 PM 27. I would like to say this about tarring and feathering to stop the wishing of it's use once and for all. Tarring and feathering was an inhumanly barbaric practice. Does one realize that the usual culmination of the practice of tarring and feathering was a hideous and prolonged suffering and sometimes death! "This practice appears to have been practiced primarily among mobs and vigilantes, rather than being an officially sanctioned form of punishment. Depending on the temperature of the tar and the attitude of the crowd, it could sometimes become quite violent and rather dangerous. Hot tar could cause significant burns, and removing the tar would pull out hair and pieces of skin, potentially putting the victim at risk of infection. Theoretically, covering the skin in tar would also prevent it from breathing, potentially causing death". The use of such a practice would make the practitioners no better than the savage's murdering of innocents, (because of something someone half a world away did)! Punish Graham at the ballot box in a civilized manner! Posted By: jfhdsiu | April 03, 2011 at 08:54 PM 28. This anti-American sicko is a RINO who won based on the SUPPORT of the Democrat voters... This man is NO American Conservative (Classical Liberal) Posted By: van grungy | April 03, 2011 at 09:14 PM 29. Graham needs to sit down and shut up. American's are not in the mood to have some clown telling them that he's going to take their rights away. Sit down and shut up!! Posted By: Pashtoo | April 03, 2011 at 09:49 PM 30. Saying Jones' actions are DIRECTLY responsible for crazed murderers' actions is saying that it's your own fault if your house gets burgled because you didn't put grills on all the windows, or your fault if you get raped because you went outside. People, please understand this is a part of global jihad and it's about the murder and mayhem, not what "triggers" it. If it wasn't Jones, it would have been a toy pig in a car driving past a mosque. Posted By: Cecilie | April 03, 2011 at 09:49 PM 31. "You have to understand that the Quaran is the word of God, delivered directly to Muhammed in its entirety by the angel Gabriel." We have the word of mortal man that the WORD OF GOD was given to "a" mortal man by an angel on behalf of GOD! As one who does not believe in any organized religion I find that just a whole lot suspicious! No 'one' WORD OF GOD is any more valid or invalid than any other WORD OF GOD! To murder innocents because of this contradicts the WORD OF GOD as given to muhammed, (who married a prepubescent girl). Does it not? Posted By: jfhdsiu | April 03, 2011 at 09:53 PM 32. jfhdsiu, No.. only muslims are innocent.. non-muslims are always guilty.. that's islam Posted By: van grungy | April 03, 2011 at 10:09 PM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ -------------------------- Want to discuss this topic? Head on over to our discussion list, [email protected]. -------------------------- Brooks Isoldi, editor [email protected] http://www.intellnet.org Post message: [email protected] Subscribe: [email protected] Unsubscribe: [email protected] *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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