Re: Fear of freedom"Truth is, I had to give up "control" as facilitator and 
accepted that the organization has been the lady's dream for ten years and that 
she will have to impact upon the founding more than a wide open space would 
have allowed her to. Once she knows that she is truly in the process of 
fulfilling something close to her dream, she may be able to let go more. 
Strange contradiction. "



or she might realize that an organization can be set up and it's not the 
organization that she dreamed of.



an organization would not start at all....but everybody gets convinced that 
that's the best thing to happen.



open space means also opening space to any result : any action, any 
thoughts....it doesn't have to be the result that we dreamed.



"Reminds me of our need, in Israel, for security measures now, if we are ever 
to move toward a time when we won't need them. However, just as too much 
"security" costs lives and creates cycles of defensiveness and aggressiveness, 
my client's re-assertion of control or influence could cost the project its 
aliveness and lead to withdrawal of some of the people's energy that was born 
during the first open space, when everything seemed possible. "



yes..i agree, i understand



"At any rate, as someone once said, "It's easier to ride a horse in the 
direction it's going.." 



wonderful!..at least for a while....



"My job seems to be more "holding" the space of openness as elegantly as 
possible, such that we won't kill the passion. 

Thanks for your response. Yoav "



i thank you for taking time to write.....and wish all the best, Funda

  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yoav Peck 
  To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Fear of freedom


  Funda, 

  Well, with Kerry's response and a good consultation with Avner Haramati, I 
met the lady Thursday and "went with her" to the extent that we re-established 
our partnership and we're moving forward. As Kerry suggested, we will call the 
Steering committee together to address her plans and to lay the foundation for 
the organization they/she aspire to. Hopefully, she will allow people to 
self-express and make a difference there. And then, later, we will open space 
to the wider community in order to enable people's creativity and commitment to 
lift the group into implementation. 

   

  Truth is, I had to give up "control" as facilitator and accepted that the 
organization has been the lady's dream for ten years and that she will have to 
impact upon the founding more than a wide open space would have allowed her to. 
Once she knows that she is truly in the process of fulfilling something close 
to her dream, she may be able to let go more. Strange contradiction. 

   

  Reminds me of our need, in Israel, for security measures now, if we are ever 
to move toward a time when we won't need them. However, just as too much 
"security" costs lives and creates cycles of defensiveness and aggressiveness, 
my client's re-assertion of control or influence could cost the project its 
aliveness and lead to withdrawal of some of the people's energy that was born 
during the first open space, when everything seemed possible. 

  At any rate, as someone once said, "It's easier to ride a horse in the 
direction it's going.." 

  My job seems to be more "holding" the space of openness as elegantly as 
possible, such that we won't kill the passion. 

  Thanks for your response. Yoav 

   


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  From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Funda Oral
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:54 PM
  To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
  Subject: Re: Fear of freedom

   

  Dear Yoav,

   

  What i do more and more now is to respect and listen carefully everybody's 
opinion, suggestion and fear.

   

  I don't judge or fight with it.

   

  If they/ he /she are/is afraid......there must be a good reason for this.

   

  It's more important to respect and deal with this fear (even if you don't 
solve it) than to open space.

   

  I agree that it's a good idea to take yourself out of the relation between 
this lady and the committee. 

   

  I also suggest you to show her you really listen to her suggestion and deal 
with her fear and unsecurity.

   

  Her letting go of control and opening space are the best ways to start a new 
and healthy organization where

  everbody would willingly take part...

   

  Tell her ...this might seem a long and undirect way...but much more healthy 
and secure for an organization to start

   

  I wish she sees this and enjoys the ost process.

   

  let us know what happens.

   

  good luck

   

  funda   

   

      

   

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Yoav Peck 

    To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu 

    Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:12 PM

    Subject: Re: Fear of freedom

     

    Kerry, 

    Thanks for your response. Yes, I have to get myself out of the way here, 
and letting the Committee decide what to do with the madam's plan and to have 
her experience a limited-audience re-thinking of her assumptions makes sense. 
The "document" to be produced by the steering committee might be the way to 
acknowledge her idea while contextualizing it in what might still be an 
open-ish process for the large group. Whether it can be a true open space will 
depend on her willingness to have her plan become an idea rather than the idea 
for how to move forward. 

    We spent a glorious week in the highlands last summer. What a great country 
to live in! 

    Thanks again. Yoav

     

     


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    From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of kerry 
napuk
    Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:27 PM
    To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
    Subject: Re: Fear of freedom

     

    Dear Yoav

     

    Ah, the insecurity of management!

     

    How about distributing her plan to the Steering Committee and asking the 
Committee to deal with it during a half day event?  She will then experience 
her plan's acceptability to the core group wanting to move the project forward. 
 Let them deal with it while you step aside. 

     

    Once the Steering Committee completes it's work, they can distribute their 
agreed document to all  participants before reconvening an OST event for the 60 
people and anyone else interested.  The emphasis of this second event would be 
to agree the way forward and create action plans to make it happen.

     

    Good luck.

     

    Regards

     

    Kerry Napuk

    Edinburgh

    www.openfutures.com

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