Hi Arthur and everyone, 

Yes, I've been lurking here. I've not read  all of the messages in their 
entirety.  It's a torrent!  But I did read Arthur's contribution below about 
and I want to comment on Arthurs' " I wonder if we are not missing the point of 
OSonOS and confounding things that are not mixable."  I don't know what 
happened in Berlin or indeed at any other OS since the one I attended in 1993 
(?) in Napa Valley.  

My question to you all is how is "OSonOS"  convening around a critical business 
need or with what specific intent? 

Peace, 

Annamarie Pluhar

Pluhar Consulting
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On May 18, 2010, at 1:45 AM, Artur Silva wrote:

> Dear Open Spacers:
>  
> Following the OSonOS in Berlin 2000, I sent to this list some mails about my 
> personal reflections on that event (that may be seen in the Archives, after 
> 22/Oct/2000), that have created some different threads of conversation, and 
> invited some changes in the OST community, the first one being the 
> transformation of the "opensapeceword.org site", that was until then only in 
> English, in a much more international site, in many languages, the first ones 
> being the Iberian (Portuguese and 
> Spanish:http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi? ), the Swedish, the 
> French (with a translation of Michael Herman's Introduction to OST to French, 
> made by Véronique and myself - 
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/french/index.html), the German, later followed 
> by many others.  
>  
> This year again (but with less free time and at a more spaced rhythm), I will 
> try to do the same kind of reflections. I will begin with what I said in the 
> closing circle at Berlin 2010. Please note that I have not taken any notes, 
> before or afterwards, so this will not be the exact words, bur only a later 
> tentative for reconstruction, that I made in the plains back home, probably 
> as I had not received the Book of Proceedings that I would prefer to read in 
> these flights and not the next time I will have some free time for it - 
> probably not before one month from now. So, taking some time of my normal 
> sleep time, here it follows:
>  
> First, I would like to say that the most important things that I will take 
> from WOSonOS 2010, in Berlin, apart from some sessions I have participated 
> in, is the fact that I met again people that I had not seen for 10 years; 
> that I finally had the possibility of seeing for the first time many people 
> that I already knew from the OSLIST but could not put a face to the name 
> (some of which, btw, I considered already as friends); and some others who's 
> faces I knew already from the OST NING site but I had never met in person 
> which I did now - only to conclude that, in many cases, I could not relate 
> the person to the picture because many photos - including mine - are 5 or 10 
> years old... And, of course, I made here new friends... I am sorry that I 
> could not spend more time with all of you in the evenings and nights but, 
> after 5 o'clock, I was too tired of trying to speak and understand English, 
> had some 20-40 professional mails that needed immediate attention and, for 
> health reasons of my wife, was obliged to choose restaurants that allowed for 
> a strict diet to compensate from the food during the day...
>  
> Second, some of you heard me say in the closing circle of Berlin 2000, and 
> later repeat and clarify in many posts to the OSLIST, that the 8th OSonOS has 
> been kind of magical to me. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about Berlin 
> 2010. Many, many reasons contribute to that, that I will not refer here, as 
> we are already out of time and it is not the correct moment and place, but I 
> will refer only one that relates only with myself: no one can, in relation to 
> anything, have twice a "first experience"...
>  
> Third and last, I have hesitated in referring this, but I feel compelled to 
> talk about it here and now. I will put this as questions and not answers but 
> they are questions that I think we must address in the near future, maybe in 
> Chile or even before that. I wonder if we are not missing the point of OSonOS 
> and confounding things that are not mixable. First this meeting is called 
> "Open Space on Open Space" and not "Open Space on Large Intervention 
> Methods". And, using the words that Peggy Holman wrote in her contribution to 
> the "Festscgrift" (or something like that...), that in the original "call for 
> texts" was called "A present for Harrison" and later renamed "25 years of 
> Open Space", OST has "simplicity of design" and shall not be confounded, as I 
> saw here too often, with other methodologies where, in my opinion, the 
> "facilitator" facilitates too much, disempowering the participants. On the 
> other hand, and using again Peggy's words, OST comes from "generosity of 
> spirit", as it was declared by Harrison as "everyone's birthright", that 
> cannot be copyrighted or trademarked. But I saw here some confusion and even 
> advertisement of other methods that, as they are trademarked, are not anymore 
> IMHO part of OST.
>  
> Please don't get me wrong: I have nothing against those other methods, that 
> are legitimate and may have their own fields of application and respective 
> Communities of Practice. I only wonder and question if they must be 
> contemplated in OSonOS as if they were "OST". I have the questions - not the 
> answers. Maybe we can take a position about that in the near future. 
>  
> Best regards 
>  
> Artur 
> 
>  
> 
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