Blog is good things to make a notes and coment them. I could agree thet
for kind of IT beginers is blog more suitable then wiki for making notes
of OST.
Some wikis are quite easy to use ( Google Sites for example) and also
has possibilities to comment. Wiki is much more convinien than blogs for
cocreation after the life event .
Regards.
Danilo
Michael Herman pravi:
i'd like to study up a bit on this drupal and org groups stuff, bob.
i've done a lot of things with wiki. some good success with capturing
things during an event. people can pick it up pretty quickly, but
just because they 'get' it during the event, doesn't mean they can fit
it into their lives. so the wikis mostly end when the event ends, in
a more or less finished state.
what i like better for capturing notes online now, is a simple blog.
i prefer to work in wiki, personally, but with groups and os events,
the shape of any standard blog seems more like the shape of the
event. every session gets its own blog post with notes and such. teh
conversation can continue easily in the comments section of each
post. if there are followup actions and such, those can be reported
there. the whole of the thing looks more like the wall then, issue,
issue, issue, with some other notes on the sidebar, the equivalent of
"need ride to airport at whatever time" or "resources we know about".
there's room for clustering issues like people do on the wall. and
new issues can be posted afterward, as they come up, in an obvious
extension of the same basic format established during the event.
the blog can link to lots of other thigns, including participants
blogs on related work. and the thing about a blog is that it's always
looks sort of "finished" where wikis can often be a bit rough and
unfinished looking.
yes, it might well fall to one or a few people to be the stewards of a
blog, where wiki's are more easily opened to everyone, but that too
seems a bit like open space... somebody is there to hold the space,
bring the tape and markers, schedule the room, manage the computer room.
a couple years ago, we did a series of events and then some training
in buffalo new york. the sponsor of that work has moved on, and i'm
not sure they generated as many issues to work on and open space for
as they thought they would, if he'd stayed on in his cabinet position
with the city. but InvitingBuffalo.com is an example of this.
haven't looked back there in a while, but the earliest posts will have
the form that i've suggested here.
it seems the simplest online meeting/proceedings that could possibly work.
m
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Pat Black <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Robert
I totally agree that wikis and other technologies are no
replacement for face to face and can't have the powerful effects
of relationship building that the face to face experiences have.
What they are great at is allowing for those conversations to
continue once there has been a face to face. They also create a
structure that can manage very complex organizing amongst many
people who are working on the same project and document those
efforts almost effortlessly.
I work with teachers to develop projects that integrate an
academic disciple with an art or environmental project to enhance
understanding and knowledge in the academic discipline.
Documentation and assessment has always been an issue for me as I
have to step out of my role as teaching/ collaborating artist to
document. This was always a perplexing issue for both me and
teachers but with a wiki we capture it all from the initial Open
Space gathering to the descriptive review critique process
students use to evaluate throughout and for the most part it
students take care of the documentation.
I agree with Lisa that the wiki has to serve a purpose for
participants after the initial OS event. Adult participants won't
go to a wiki to visit about the event and develop relationships,
kids will go to just see what there friends are doing. It is
easier for them to have virtual relationships. But people will
use the wiki if they are working on a joint project and need to
coordinate efforts.
Pat
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Robert Fabian <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Pat et al,
I'm new to OST, but have some ancient history with socio-tech
and Search. I
like what I've been able to discover about OST. Given my roots in
technology, I began to explore how / if technology could be
used in the Open
Space process. Some preliminary thoughts:
Technology should not be used to replace face-to-face. The
dynamic is wrong,
... but may be a practical alternative for children of
different ages and
experiences. With adults, I can't see using technology as the
medium for
Open Space.
That said, there are possible roles for technology. Technology
could be used
to collect information, and then result in the instant
publication of an
event report. But technology used that way is pure support.
Might technology
be used to extend an event?
To my mind, Wiki dynamics don't provide a virtual mirror for
the actual
event. I'm attracted by the idea of using Organic Groups
within the Drupal
Content Management System. Organic Groups can be made to
mirror the sessions
which are such a basic part of OST. Anyone (after registering)
can (be
allowed to) create an Organic Group. Organic Groups can be
visible to all
(or kept private), but to contribute you need to join the
Group. They
provide a reasonable virtual environment for use of the Law of
Two Feet.
The technology is inexpensive. Drupal with Organic Groups
comes as an open
source bundle and will run on an inexpensive virtual web
server. Total out
of pocket expense to set up and operate a site (technically
powerful enough
for thousands) would be less than $100/year.
The virtual space can mirror the face-to-face Open Space. The
dynamic will
be different. Depending on the participants, the virtual space
may be a
turn-on, ... or a turn-off. But with the right group of
participants, I'm
optimistic that Drupal with Organic Groups could be an
effective virtual
extension of Open Space.
Bob Fabian - www.fabian.ca <http://www.fabian.ca>
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