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From: Harrison Owen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: OST & Scientific Method
I would be delighted if the academic community would take a serious look at
Open Space, not because that would constitute some sort of validation, but
rather because I suspect that the several disciplines could deepen our
understanding of what happens and why. As to why such a look has not
happened to date, I am afraid that Siona has it precisely right. It could be
very threatening, especially to those in the applied social sciences. As a
friend once said to me (who was very much of an applied social scientist) --
"Harrison, if what you are describing is true most of what we are currently
doing (process design, facilitation, etc) doesn't need to be done." A pretty
stark statement which has some very negative implications for professional
standing, academic tenure, to say nothing of billable hours. Considering the
risks it is not too hard to understand the behavior.
Harrison
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From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Siona van
Dijk
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OST & Scientific Method
Juan; Harrison:
I would venture that academia as a whole exists as an institution
vaster, and more pervasive, than that which OST practitioners have
opened space within, and as such would find the necessary trust in and
mystery of the process challenging--even dangerous--to its established
structures and systems. I say this only to grant the room for each;
that is, that OST has a role in the world (an important, even
necessary, one) and yet for those systems that are still, to some
extent, functioning, the acknowledgment of shattering processes can be
unsettling at best.
I don't mean to somehow grant systems or institutions a personal
autonomy here, though, so perhaps more accurately, those within such
organizations might not wish to be the ones to point to an alternate
process or route, or might shy from a too-broad espousing of something
that, in my view, can't be entirely grasped by the intellect, nor
explained away. To me OST is--necessarily, and beautifully--a threat
to established order, and as such I can understand why academia may
not leap acknowledge it.
Although does it really matter? To me part of the beauty and the
success of OST is precisely that it's not been institutionalized or
owned; to me such necessary outsides ought be tended to and furthered.
My sense is that if academia "catches up" it will no longer be
academia--and although that's fine with me I'm not sure many academics
would be overjoyed. ;)
Siona
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:10 PM, JL Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks you Harrison.
In a way then we could ask the following questions:
Is it possible that the scientific method can also may account for the
results of the Open Space Technology, if groups of academic interest
permit,
although it is not so clear that they would be suitable for them?
How to understand then that something that has been repeated over 100,000
times in over 140 countries for over 25 years do not possess adequate
documentation from the standpoint of scientific method?
Or is it rather depends on the particular characteristics of its
practitioners who do not like or simply hate this point of view?
Or is there some scientific research efforts that heretofore are unknown
or
has not been published yet?
Appreciatively,
Juan Luis
http://www.espacioabierto.net
De: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Harrison
Owen
Enviado el: martes, 23 de noviembre de 2010 14:34
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: [OSLIST] OST & Scientific Method
Juan - I would not hold my breath. To the best of my knowledge, the
academic
community has totally avoided Open Space, even though there have been
multiple OS held within the sacred walls of Academe. Just two weeks ago I
helped the Arkansas State University to get on with their Strategic Plan.
The lack of scientific evidence did not seem to bother them much. Of
course
you could offer him the opportunity for an academic scoop, if he has the
courage. After all when you have done something in excess of 100,000 times
in 140 countries, over 25 years - one might suspect that something useful
has been going on. All without benefit of the wisdom of academia. Maybe
someday they will catch up?
Harrison
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From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JL
Walker
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: OST & Scientific Method
Dear Friends
Yesterday I shared a coffee with a colleague who is one of the greatest
exponents of positive psychology in Chile. My interest was to motivate him
to know how is that an open space experience brings out the best of a
human
being and thus allows for experiencing many of the theoretical concepts
that
he manages. Great was my surprise when he said he was not interested in
anything that was not strictly and rigorously related to the scientific
method and that before he can accept my invitation, he first needed to
know
some scientific publications which demonstrate "objectively" the benefits
and results of the methodology.
What would you respond to him? What are the sources or scientific research
on Open Space to which we could refer him?
I know that this issue has been discussed here in some way before, but I
would love now that you could refresh my memory and my knowledge in all of
this matter.
Hugs,
Juan Luis
PS: I know also that Frederik Wortmann from Boscop in Berlin is working
just
now on his thesis with this optical, but I don't know about the details
and
his results.
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