Thank you all for your valuable comments and advice. You're all very kind. I hope you had a great Easter weekend!
Marie Ann On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Stanley Park <[email protected]> wrote: > Child is father of the man. > > Both children and adults would learn about themselves if the theme is > inviting the both group. > > Appreciatively, > > spark > > 2012. 4. 6. 오후 8:58에 "Marie Ann Östlund" <[email protected]>님이 작성: > >> Thanks for all your insights and advice! It makes sense to be flexible >> to the situation and adjust time slots to the needs of the group, >> sometimes mixing their length (if not too much to confuse them). And >> Eva: "why didn't they continue the session?" Exactly! I guess they >> wanted to go to the next one, but you're right - they could have >> continued.... >> >> Harrison: Yes, children got it! The challenge, I guess, are the >> parents - and now that they got this experience they might see how >> children can be part of it. This is great. >> >> But at what age have you included children in open space? These were 7-8-9 >> yrs. >> >> Marie Ann >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Diane Gibeault >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I agree with you Chris. >> > >> > If I have limitations, I will favor a longer 1st round (1h30 or >> > minimally 75 >> > min) for flexibility in the opening, also giving time for participants >> > to >> > choose topics at the market place and get to their group (can take more >> > time >> > since they are not yet familiar with the process and the physical >> > space). >> > >> > Diane >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Chris Corrigan <[email protected]> >> > >> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >> > <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:00:44 PM >> > Subject: Re: [OSList] My first OS >> > >> > Echoing many things said here. Congrats on your first one, and yes to >> > the >> > kids noticing passion and responsibility showing up. >> > >> > I like to err on the side of more time in the sessions. With 1.5 hour >> > sessions, we have a nice breath in the agenda and people can take as >> > much or >> > as little time as they need. An hour for me is usually the minimum, but >> > I've even had 75 minute sessions instead of 60. >> > >> > Of course all this depends on context and so on, and with very large >> > groups >> > anything less than 1.5 hours makes things very difficult logistically, >> > and >> > with groups working on well defined issues, 45 mins can work very well. >> > >> > Chris. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Marie -- Many thanks for sharing! And I loved the part about the >> > children at >> > the end. My finding: Kids do get Open Space -- more better, quicker, and >> > deeper than their (sometimes) recalcitrant parents. Next time try just >> > treating them like people along with everybody else. We had some young >> > people at our recent OSONOS in Manila. They raised provocative issues >> > (not >> > just about "young people") and convened rich (mostly adult participants) >> > sessions. No problems and lots of good surprise! >> > >> > Harrison >> > >> > Harrison Owen >> > 7808 River Falls Dr. >> > Potomac, MD 20854 >> > USA >> > >> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) >> > Camden, Maine 20854 >> > >> > Phone 301-365-2093 >> > (summer) 207-763-3261 >> > >> > www.openspaceworld.com >> > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of >> > OSLIST >> > Go >> > to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marie Ann >> > Östlund >> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:20 AM >> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >> > Subject: [OSList] My first OS >> > >> > Dear all, >> > >> > I sent this letter Saturday but it got stuck as I had added a photo to >> > it, >> > but here it is again: >> > >> > There is only one open space that will be the first, even if all of them >> > certainly will be unique. Since I facilitated my first open space last >> > weekend March 23-24, I thought to write something about it. I find this >> > email list both generous and helpful, and I admire the way you're all >> > supporting each other. In any case, here is my little peanut of a >> > contribution to the OSList bowl. >> > >> > I held the open space at the Hare Krishna farm/village community in >> > Sweden >> > (Järna), which hosts around 35 adults and 30 kids (most of them below >> > 10!). >> > There are mostly independent families with kids living there. I had >> > suggested to them that they try OS. A few of them got it immediately, >> > but >> > there was some scepticism as they suffer from quite some meeting-fatigue >> > . >> > >> > Some desired we hold it around the spring equinox and an astrologer >> > pointed >> > out the weekend after as excellent, if we could start on the Friday. >> > Considering people's work commitments, that they are early risers, the >> > children, we decided to hold a short inauguration of the meetings in the >> > evening instead of starting the OS or doing some storytelling. They >> > arranged >> > for some recitation of mantras and chanting, and the children led a big >> > part >> > of it. They were so good! We also had some food, and the whole thing was >> > really appreciated. >> > >> > The main challenge for the community in regards to the meeting was to >> > engage >> > the children so that the parents could attend. In the end they sorted >> > something out by themselves (as is of course the best). >> > >> > By the end of the weekend (it was a 1 1/2 day event) they were surprised >> > of >> > how relaxed the meetings were while being very efficient. >> > They experienced how OS got them into a collaborative instead of an >> > adversarial mood, and had a really good time. They would like to >> > continue >> > the process. They also noticed who did not come and started to think >> > more >> > deeply about who feels included and who does not. It's nice to see how >> > OS >> > creates the clarity needed for action. >> > >> > Some learnings/reflections: >> > >> > We did one hour sessions, which was too short for some topics. Next we >> > time >> > we could use 1 1/2hrs per session. Anyone having experiences of mixing >> > the >> > length of time, like using 1 1/2 hr sessions in the morning and 1hr >> > sessions >> > in the afternoon? >> > >> > I could do a better introduction. I didn't prepare enough, and what I >> > had >> > prepared was in English - and had to switch to Swedish on the spot. I >> > think >> > simplicity really is the key, and getting out of the way. :) >> > >> > One person took the opportunity to organise a meeting demanding parents >> > attendance. I let that go, as they were discussing an important topic >> > for >> > them. He also organised another one like that, but this time people >> > voted >> > with their feet. I should have been more alert to this. >> > >> > In the end, some kids sat by me drawing, and one started to come up with >> > his >> > own topics. I then gave them a part of the wall and asked what they >> > wanted >> > and they came up with really good stuff. I think they were really >> > pleased to >> > be asked. They wanted e.g. a more quiet temple room and less running >> > around >> > in it, which surprised me as they usually are the cause to the >> > cacophony. It >> > was a great learning, both in terms of how kids can do OS quite >> > effectively, >> > and how it's so much better to create the ground rules together than >> > dictating them. And as someone told me afterwards, the 'cause' of a >> > problem >> > should be included in solving it as they are the experts in it. >> > >> > I hope you're well. We're getting some snow tomorrow in Stockholm, but >> > are >> > still keeping our hopes for spring alive! Happy Easter! >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > Marie Ann Östlund >> > >> > PS. A few pictures of the weekend: >> > >> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150663955813785.392314.730693784 >> > &type=3&l=29b6f85440 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OSList mailing list >> > To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe >> > send an >> > email to [email protected] >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OSList mailing list >> > To post send emails to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --- >> > CHRIS CORRIGAN >> > Facilitation - Training - Process Design >> > Open Space Technology >> > >> > Weblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot >> > Site: http://www.chriscorrigan.com >> > >> > Upcoming workshops (click for invitations) >> > >> > Art of Hosting Water dialogues >> > (for people involved with water issues) >> > April 13-15, 2012, Bowen Island BC, Canada >> > >> > >> > YET: the improv-based facilitation course you have always wanted to >> > take! >> > September 2012, Bowen Island, BC, Canada >> > (email me for more information) >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OSList mailing list >> > To post send emails to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OSList mailing list >> > To post send emails to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
