Hi Catherine,
My experiences with really short OST meetings are
mixed. My experiences with OST meetings for
demonstration purposes are not so good. Only
spectators, no play. So I only do an Open Space
meeting if there is a real issue to be discussed by passionate people.
A short Open Space meeting is at least 3 hours
when I do it. I do not agree to anything shorter.
My favorite is a day and a half. There seems to
be a tendency that organizations do want the
benefits of Open Space but have increasing
trouble investing the time to make it possible.
Sometimes I think that the biggest change we can
offer is not the format of the Open Space
meeting, but the idea to spend time on things, to
stop measuring every minute against the KPIs of a balanced score card.
Having said that, a three hour meeting is much
better than nothing at all. Key is to manage the
expectations of the client. The benefits of a
three hour meeting are certainly worthwile, but
not way as good as those of a day and a half. If
they are happy with the three hours, you can tell
them they have seen nothing yet and there is much more where this came from.
Cheers
Koos
At 00:19 11-6-2012, [email protected] wrote:
Hi, I did a 4-hour open space last year. It went
really well. People seemed to enjoy it and a
lot came out of it but not as much as I
would have liked. But everyone went away happy
to have had the experience. Best, Donna
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From: Graydancer <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
Date: Sun, June 10, 2012 3:48 pm
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My Open Spaces are usually a day (though we have
meet & greets & sunday brunches to provide some
wiggle room). They seem to work well. I was
recently asked to do a 6-hour open space for
about 350 people in Chicago. It went well - very
well - but we had a LOT of time beforehand to
prep the people through online forums, etc, as
well as a lot of participants who had been to other open spaces.
That being said, with one or two exceptions,
everyone there loved it. My only frustration was
with people who said "No, I didn't go, it just
sounded too disorganized." For some reason, the
idea of something being self-organizing is just anathema.
I think shorter OS's can work...but I would
never want to do one shorter than the 6 hours.
Even that felt way too short. Good, but like a
book that you really wish didn't end...
Gray
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Catherine
Pfaehler <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
I can only add that the only time I did such a
short OST in order to demonstrate the methode
did NOT lead to a client relationship. Iâve
come to notice that even a 5.5 hr OS-event is
too short. We deprive people of the experience
of what it is like to have ENOUGH time for their
thoughts and ideas and actions and projects to
actually emerge if we agree to such short periods of time.
Thank you for asking, Catherine C., and thank you for your answer, Harrison!
Love, Catherine P.
Catherine Pfaehler
Burckhardtstrasse 2
CH - 3008 Bern
+41-(0)31-536 05 31
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Von: Catherine Corbaz [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012 19:20
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Dear Harrison
of course I'll trust you. You put the right
words on my inner feelings and gave me strong
arguments to tell the sponsor, if needed. Your
point to do do it after and let emerge an opened discussion, is a perfect idea.
Thanks a lot,
Catherine
Le 10 juin 12 à 18:07, Harrison Owen a écrit :
Catherine I know you have maade your plans.
And Plans can change. Here are some thoughts
that might move the changes along
First The
best Presentation on Open Sn Space is âDo
it!â Nothing else comes even close. Second â
Doing a Presentation about Open Space before an
Open Space creates all sorts of difficulties,
none of which you want. No matter what you say,
no matter how good you are â whatever you say
will just confuse people. If they have never
experienced Open Space, they simply wonât
believe you. And if they have had the
experience, they donât need the explanation.
Even worse, a Presentation up front will
inevitably put the people in a âheadâ mode,
thinking about the process. They will be
wondering about other processes, potential
modifications, what âtheyâ say in the
literature. All good thoughts, but definitely
not needed at the onset of an Open Space. Just
get on with the business, do what comes
naturally, and forget about the process. After
all it works all by itself. No help needed. And
donât try doing âjust a little bit of Open
Spaceâ It is always frustrating, because just
about the time you get rolling, it is time to
stop. If these people really want to Celebrate
Go for iit and make sure they have plenty of time/space for the occasion!
And then if they really want a Presentation, do
it at the end. I assume you will have a closing
circle and after the people have shared their
comments, ask them by way of summary âWhat did
you notice particularly about our time together
that was strange, new, surprising, different? I
think you will find that the People as a whole
will create a marvelous presentation, and of
course you can comment if you care to.
Trust me. You wonât be disappointed.
Harrison
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Dear OS-friends,
Iâve been invited to moderate an OST for the
10th birthday of a studying program of a high
Engineering and business school. It is called Human System engineering.
The purpose is to celebrate the anniversary and
to make an OST in order to collect ideas,
projects of the students to allow this program
to live further. The purpose is also to present
OST as a method to work with collective
intelligence , etc. Inviter people will be
students and old students, the professorship will also be invited.
At the beginning we spoke of a one day OST.
After a first meeting with the preparation
group, they proposed me to do something shorter,
with a presentation about OST. I agreed with
their suggestion. But i'll make my presentation
as short as possible, with the message: the best
presentation is to experiment it. So I might have 1/2 more, who knows?
But i've never do such a short OST. So presently
the agenda (in may head) look like:
- a short introduction (sponsor + OST introduction : 15â),
- Market place&agenda (15â).
- Two break-out sessions of 35 min.
- closing circle (20')
We expect 30-50 people.
Anyone with a similar experience. I remender
reading something about a 1.5 hours OST?
Any comment, remark, welcome.
NB: this OST is a short of follow-up of the
french publication of Christine Kohler.
Regards
Catherine Corbaz
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CH-2503 Bienne
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