How wonder-full! These exchanges are just gorgeous, for what they reveal about
the stories we each carry that are a lens through which we receive and open to
what wants to emerge!!
Thank you all! I'm so grateful to be part of opening inner/outer space and
emerging the Re-menbering of the whole enchilada we are constantly engaged in!!
Disclosure: I'm part of the "story-telling craft workers guild", so I
appreciate all forms of story telling mastery! (Yes, I was a TV producer for
many many years in my pre-OST professional life. The shooters were awesome.
Their shots had truth, blinding glorious truth!). We need that heartful
heart-filled feedback in all forms.
Love and blessings to all. Anne
Your Self
Occupy
100%
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:59:52 +0100
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> Dear Anne,
> I watched it and reacted quite differently.
>
> I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several
> cameras and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional
> musicians and singers from several choirs and the organizational work
> backstage such as getting the municipality to grant permission for using
> the public space for this event... all the time evoking the impression
> of an impromptu happening with lots of casually dressed music
> professionals just incidentally meeting and playing and singing
> passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with stage bows, including
> the conductor.
> A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford...
> against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco
> Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26%
> unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)...
>
> I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol
> abused by a Spanish Bank.
>
> I closed all space for appreciating the music.
>
> What I really enjoyed, look here
>> http://vimeo.com/24157696
>
> It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of
> cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit!
>
> hugs
> mmp
>
>
> On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote:
>>
>> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US
>> humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every
>> time I view it!
>> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!
>>
>> Love Anne
>>
>> Your Self
>> Occupy
>> 100%
>>
>> Sent from my cottage
>> Phone: 206-459-0227
>> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org>
>> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org>
>> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com>
>> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:54:10 +0000 (GMT)
> From: ANNE BENNETT <[email protected]>
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> Here we go...I hope!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpIM0bcNFA
>
>
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> Dear Michael
> Thank you! So relieved to find a kindred soul. I too felt pain on LudvigVB's
> behalf, and some other things as well as the themes you express. For me today
> you have opened much heartspace. If I could I would post a link to any
> performance by El Sistema, both Venezuelan and Scottish. With deep gratitude
> Anne
>
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> From: Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]>;
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> <[email protected]>;
> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 11:59:52 PM
>
> Dear Anne,
> I watched it and reacted quite differently.
>
> I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several cameras
> and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional musicians and
> singers from several choirs and the organizational work backstage such as
> getting the municipality to grant permission for using the public space for
> this event... all the time evoking the impression of an impromptu happening
> with lots of casually dressed music professionals just incidentally meeting
> and playing and singing passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with
> stage bows, including the conductor.
> A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford...
> against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco
> Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26%
> unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)...
>
> I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol
> abused by a Spanish Bank.
>
> I closed all space for appreciating the music.
>
> What I really enjoyed, look here
>> http://vimeo.com/24157696
>
> It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of
> cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit!
>
> hugs
> mmp
>
> On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote:
>>
>> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email.? This is US
>> humans opening space!? So magnificent.? It brings tears of joy every
>> time I view it!
>> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!
>>
>> Love Anne
>>
>> Your Self
>> Occupy
>> 100%
>>
>> Sent from my cottage
>> Phone: 206-459-0227
>> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org>
>> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org>
>> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com>
>> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>
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> miguel-jan, anne salam!
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> thanks for sharing your offerings. both touched me!
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> greetings from sankt-diegovsk,
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> Dear Michael!
>
> Thank you for sharing this video. I've been in tears watching this video,
> because I like the idea, I like the place, I've been there in 2006 at this
> square in Cologne, and because there are two my friends Marai and Christian
> who brought this joy and warmth of genuine contact to so many people! Great!
>
> Love and blessings,
>
> Marina
> Novosibirsk
> Russia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael M Pannwitz [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:00 AM
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
>
> Dear Anne,
> I watched it and reacted quite differently.
>
> I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several
> cameras and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional
> musicians and singers from several choirs and the organizational work
> backstage such as getting the municipality to grant permission for using
> the public space for this event... all the time evoking the impression
> of an impromptu happening with lots of casually dressed music
> professionals just incidentally meeting and playing and singing
> passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with stage bows, including
> the conductor.
> A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford...
> against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco
> Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26%
> unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)...
>
> I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol
> abused by a Spanish Bank.
>
> I closed all space for appreciating the music.
>
> What I really enjoyed, look here
>> http://vimeo.com/24157696
>
> It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of
> cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit!
>
> hugs
> mmp
>
>
> On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote:
>>
>> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US
>> humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every
>> time I view it!
>> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!
>>
>> Love Anne
>>
>> Your Self
>> Occupy
>> 100%
>>
>> Sent from my cottage
>> Phone: 206-459-0227
>> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org>
>> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org>
>> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com>
>> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:36:22 +0100
> From: Eleder_BuM <[email protected]>
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> Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing!
>
> I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know
> I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and
> days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.
>
> Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the
> whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this
> commercial.
>
> (Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the
> headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to
> people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they
> are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another
> campaing?)
>
> Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,..
> but I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial.
>
> And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in
> Sabadell seems* quite different from self organized and emergent,
> spontaneus,...*
>
> Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video
> related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years
> ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real
> fun ;-)!
>
> And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some* conflict,
> confussion, chaos* at the end,... One can sense there was not much money
> for the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!
> * *
>
> *http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html*
>
> May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in
> regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main
> issues and opportunities!
>
> This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and
> the whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s
> dream :-)!
>
> Love,
>
> *@Eleder_BuM <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> *
> www.burumapak.blogspot.com
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> www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz
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>
>
> 2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <[email protected]>
>
>> Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even
>> Banks can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a
>> commercial as gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new
>> standard that needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know
>> what that means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess
>> even Banks can do it. J ****
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>> Hi Anne and all friends around,
>>
>>
>> This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open
>> Space,...
>>
>> I?ll add, anyway, that..****
>>
>>
>> - it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting
>> emotions inside me :-o) and****
>> - the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent. *
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:26:34 -0300
> From: "JL Walker" <[email protected]>
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> Thanks a lot for your post Anne Stadler, I have also put it on my Facebook.
> Too inspirational.
>
>
>
> Could we also talk about a "flash mob" Open Space?
>
> Or only "occupy" is the right name for it?
>
>
>
> What if for the next 20th of March that has been declared by UN as the world
> day of happiness, many of us facilitate a flash mob Open Space in our cities?
>
> What if the theme be challenges and opportunities of happiness today?
>
>
>
> Could be the World Bank the sponsor?
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
>> From Chile with love,
>
>
>
> Juan Luis
>
>
>
>
>
> De: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Anne Stadler
> Enviado el: s?bado, 26 de enero de 2013 18:22
> Para: [email protected]
> Asunto: [OSList] An offering!
>
>
>
>
> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US humans
> opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I view it!
>
> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!
>
>
>
> Love Anne
>
>
>
> Your Self
>
> Occupy
>
> 100%
>
>
>
> Sent from my cottage
>
> Phone: 206-459-0227
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>
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:04:21 +0100 (CET)
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> same here, thank you!!
> farah
>
>
> fischer florian <[email protected]> hat am 26. Januar 2013 um 23:32 geschrieben:
>
>> yes, dear Anne, tears of yoy.
>> Florian
>>
>> Am 26.01.2013 um 22:22 schrieb Anne Stadler:
>>
>>
>>> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US
>>> humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I
>>> view it!
>>> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!
>>>
>>> Love Anne
>>>
>>> Your Self
>>> Occupy
>>> 100%
>>>
>>> Sent from my cottage
>>> Phone: 206-459-0227
>>>
>>> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org>
>>> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org>
>>> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com>
>>> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be
>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be>
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> Hi everybody
>
> I agree that a commercial for a bank by itself does not awake very
> positive emotions nowadays, but:
>
> 1.it is a wonderful one, extremely well crafted and enjoyable
> 2. we can learn a lot from good communications
> For ex: 1. I would love to have a youtube about a good Ost done in the
> same manner
> and I think it is possible, although the Ost is more "spontaneous" and
> the bank's concert is a sort of a living theater, with actors
> pretending to be passersby and passersby being actors.
> for ex: 2. by looking at this video everybody can understand very
> effectively the value of flash-mob music in public places. And that
> public places should be planned to host such happenings, spontaneous
> or organized.
>
> and ( Michael) I find the bank's video much more effective and
> enjoyable than the one about free hugs in a public place which can be
> seen ( and done ) once a year, but not twice.
>
> An appreciation of a rich, extremely well crafted communication
> payed for by a bank, doesn't mean that we have to appreciate the main
> politics of the bank.
>
> In a few words: I am going to imitate ..the bank !! ( Also because I
> think that it is a kind of good idea that with the right people can be
> done for free exactly like the free hug happening.. )
>
> And I find very interesting this whole discussion !!
>
> So double thanks to Anne.
>
> Marianella
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/1/29 JL Walker <[email protected]>:
>> Thanks a lot for your post Anne Stadler, I have also put it on my Facebook.
>> Too inspirational.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could we also talk about a "flash mob" Open Space?
>>
>> Or only "occupy" is the right name for it?
>>
>>
>>
>> What if for the next 20th of March that has been declared by UN as the world
>> day of happiness, many of us facilitate a flash mob Open Space in our
>> cities?
>>
>> What if the theme be challenges and opportunities of happiness today?
>>
>>
>>
>> Could be the World Bank the sponsor?
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> From Chile with love,
>>
>>
>>
>> Juan Luis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> De: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Anne Stadler
>> Enviado el: s?bado, 26 de enero de 2013 18:22
>> Para: [email protected]
>> Asunto: [OSList] An offering!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US humans
>> opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I view
>> it!
>>
>> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!
>>
>>
>>
>> Love Anne
>>
>>
>>
>> Your Self
>>
>> Occupy
>>
>> 100%
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my cottage
>>
>> Phone: 206-459-0227
>>
>>
>>
>> www.CompassionateAction.org
>>
>> www.ThrivingCommunities.org
>>
>> www.InClaritas.com
>>
>> www.fluentsource.org
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:39:51 -0500
> From: "Harrison Owen" <[email protected]>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)
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> Eleder ? As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in
> the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed
> and some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it
> looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly
> and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks you
> love to hate. Been there.
>
>
>
> But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life and we
> certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker things
> that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them when
> they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the video. Most
> of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need some
> broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say that
> these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in suffocating
> conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power plays
> ? to the point that they are isolated from each other and most especially
> from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of their
> system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior, that
> pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess. Carrying
> the analogy ? the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh air and
> light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their
> colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is opened
> even wider, the whole community can render the same function.
>
>
>
> I don?t think this is rosy-eyed idealism? Fact is, Banks are just another
> part of humanity, and sh? does happen. And when it does, some fresh air
> helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open some
> space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little bit?
> but you have to start somewhere.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer) 207-763-3261
>
>
>
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>
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>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:36 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
>
>
>
> Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing!
>
> I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know
> I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and
> days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.
>
> Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the
> whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this
> commercial.
>
> (Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the
> headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to
> people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they
> are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another
> campaing?)
>
>
> Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. but
> I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial.
>
> And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in
> Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent,
> spontaneus,...
>
> Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video
> related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years
> ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real fun
> ;-)!
>
> And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict,
> confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much money for
> the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!
>
> http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html
>
> May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in
> regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main
> issues and opportunities!
>
> This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and the
> whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s dream
> :-)!
>
> Love,
>
> <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> @Eleder_BuM
> <http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/> www.burumapak.blogspot.com
> <http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com
> <http://www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz> www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <[email protected]>
>
> Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even Banks
> can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a commercial as
> gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard that
> needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know what that
> means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even Banks
> can do it. J
>
>
>
> ho
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer) 207-763-3261
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM
>
>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
>
>
>
> Hi Anne and all friends around,
>
>
>
> This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open
> Space,...
>
> I?ll add, anyway, that..
>
> * it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting
> emotions inside me :-o) and
> * the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent.
> * ...
>
> long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy
> weeks,
>
> <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> @Eleder_BuM
> <http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/> www.burumapak.blogspot.com
> <http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:16:07 -0500
> From: Brett Barndt <[email protected]>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <[email protected]>, Harrison Owen <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)
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> Harrison,
>
> Great to see this topic on OSlist. Very very very important for
> caring, concerned, and socially engaged people to educate ourselves
> about this important and fundamental topic. In fact, there are
> alternatives to this system and Sh* does not need to happen quite like
> it does. The Sh* is a product of the system as it is designed. There
> are alternatives, and it is high time we resurfaced those alternatives
> in consciousness after a century of power institution efforts to erase
> them.
>
> There is some very good history by Farley Grubb of UDelaware on the
> origins of bank power over our economy. It turns out a significant
> number of the Founding Fathers were bank shareholders in the Bank of
> the United States. Farley Grubb makes it pretty clear that the
> Founders and the "Money Interests" got what they wanted by limiting
> the ability of local communities and states to issue their own money
> into circulation.
>
> They made sure that the private banking industry would have control
> over the money supply, to expand it when they want to, and then
> contract when they need to for their own profit purposes.
>
> This system is in stark contrast to the colonial period when
> individual colonies issued currency into circulation for services
> rendered to the colony. i.e. community.
>
> Banks may be part of our economic life, but the way they create the
> money supply through debts is an arbitrary form emanating from England
> with the Bank of England. They used that system all over the empire
> precisely because it draws the fruits of productive effort and human
> transformative energy ever more toward a center of fewer and fewer
> owners. The IMF then pushed it out to more places in the world after
> "independence" and the replacement of the British Empire.
>
> The system was also foisted upon European countries in the days of
> "classical" or "liberal" economics. The system itself as designed
> explains why wealth and income is so concentrated in these economies,
> and why more and more are rendered property-less wage earners
> perpetually in debt to the owners of the banks at the heart of the
> economic system.
>
> It turns out that the "open space" of the Constitutional Conventions
> in Philadelphia in the 17980s were not so open since bank shareholders
> were the preponderance of the attendees at the "open space". And,
> evidently there were several similar "coup d'etats" against real
> dialogue and all voices being heard over time at strategic moments
> from then until now. The Shays and Whiskey Rebellions arose only a few
> short years after this money monopoly was established as evidence
> enough of its unjust outcomes.
>
> We need to open that space again and revisit these constitutions and
> all the law codes that privilege creditors, banks, and their
> beneficial owners over everybody else who really are the ones creating
> everything that's created underlying the economy. It is after all a
> human economy.
>
> We all need to learn more vocabulary about the choices available to us
> for how money comes into existence. This is what now needs to happen
> in Open Space. Conventional wisdom, lack of knowledge, propaganda, and
> loss of agency have taken away our knowledge about the origins of
> money, and the power dynamics inherent in those origins.
>
> Like Grubb and other historians studying about money in these early
> Constitutional Conventions like to say, "the average red neck farmer
> in the Carolinas knew more about money and where it comes from than
> the average Ivy League educated law student today."
>
> And, I witnessed his questioning the audience about origin of money to
> an audience of law students at Columbia University just last week!
>
> We had better wake up from our slumber about these dark details. The
> Spanish banks are not the only ones who have a lot to cover up with
> feel good warm and fuzzy commercials. They have taken the nation to
> the brink of disaster. 26% unemployment, and like in Greece, rising
> suicide rates.
>
> As a Canadian visitor asked a group of young activists in December in
> NYC, "do you Americans know what has happened to your country? Do you
> know what it is like to come by train from Toronto and cross the
> border at Niagara Falls to see boarded up and abandoned houses? And, 8
> hours of train past disused factories and towns all over New York
> State? Do you know what happens when the wealth of a generation gets
> wiped out?"
>
> Of course they did not know what happens...maybe that would be wisdom
> for European grandparents to contribute!
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Eleder ? As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in
>> the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed
>> and some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it
>> looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly
>> and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks you
>> love to hate. Been there.
>>
>>
>>
>> But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life and we
>> certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker things
>> that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them when
>> they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the video. Most
>> of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need some
>> broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say that
>> these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in suffocating
>> conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power plays
>> ? to the point that they are isolated from each other and most especially
>> from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of their
>> system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior, that
>> pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess. Carrying
>> the analogy ? the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh air and
>> light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their
>> colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is opened
>> even wider, the whole community can render the same function.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don?t think this is rosy-eyed idealism? Fact is, Banks are just another
>> part of humanity, and sh? does happen. And when it does, some fresh air
>> helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open some
>> space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little bit?
>> but you have to start somewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>
>> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>>
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST
>> Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:36 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing!
>>
>> I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know
>> I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and
>> days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.
>>
>> Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the
>> whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this
>> commercial.
>>
>> (Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the
>> headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to
>> people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they
>> are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another
>> campaing?)
>>
>>
>> Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. but
>> I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial.
>>
>> And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in
>> Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent,
>> spontaneus,...
>>
>> Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video
>> related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years
>> ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real fun
>> ;-)!
>>
>> And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict,
>> confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much money for
>> the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!
>>
>> http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html
>>
>> May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in
>> regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main
>> issues and opportunities!
>>
>> This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and the
>> whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s dream
>> :-)!
>>
>> Love,
>>
>> @Eleder_BuM
>> www.burumapak.blogspot.com
>> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com
>> www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <[email protected]>
>>
>> Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even Banks
>> can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a commercial as
>> gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard that
>> needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know what that
>> means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even Banks
>> can do it. J
>>
>>
>>
>> ho
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>
>> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>>
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST
>> Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM
>>
>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Anne and all friends around,
>>
>>
>>
>> This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open
>> Space,...
>>
>> I?ll add, anyway, that..
>>
>> it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting emotions
>> inside me :-o) and
>> the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent.
>> ...
>>
>> long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy
>> weeks,
>>
>> @Eleder_BuM
>> www.burumapak.blogspot.com
>> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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