Chris--

Yup, got that on my Kindle! One of my favorites!

                :- Doug.





On 04/26/2013 12:58 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
Here is a little book I wrote on this topic a number of years ago:
http://archive.org/details/TheTaoOfHoldingSpace




On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:16 AM, doug <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    MMP and friends--

    Thank you for this dive into the present and invisible and expanding
    of time and space.

    Although I have been doing OST for a decade, this is a practice I
    have yet to perfect. Often I feel at the end of an OS that I was not
    really there because I was facilitating. That is, I cannot tell
    someone else what went on or what the results were. (Sure I can
    count issues and assess the depth of the closing circle, but that is
    not the same as having been a participant. It is different when at
    an OSonOS I can simply be a participant.)

    So can you and others say some more about how you practice being
    present and invisible, what it feels like to expand time and space?
    Is it for you more than picking up coffee cups?

    :- Doug.





    On 04/26/2013 04:31 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:

        Dear Carms,
        basically, there is no such thing as a "neutral" facilitator.
        As far as I can remember, and thats a few decades back, potential
        clients often ask for a "neutral" facilitation or consultation.

        Seems to me that the way to tackle this is to ask myself what I
        am not
        "neutral" about. And that, I found out, varies from case to case and
        from situation to situation.

        So, when I am facilitating I find it helpful to discover what I
        do not
        want to be "neutral" about and focus on that particular thing.
        When facilitating an Open Space Technology process I focus on being
        "present and invisible", "expanding time and space" (for the
        forces of
        selforganisation to do its thing).
        This I find is more than a full time job... any other interests that
        crop up (getting involved in issues participants post or paying
        attention to a co-facilitator...) simply have no space. The
        moment they
        do press for space and my attention I know I am no longer really
        paying
        attention to my task as facilitator.
        In practice this means that I am in desperate need for a team in the
        background that takes care of all the things I love to meddle
        with and
        control so that I can focus... which sounds simple but aint easy.

        A co-facilitator who has clear positions on issues and is
        absorbed by
        such stuff does not compromise "neutrality" of the team. He exerts
        control and that is from my experience a surefire way to reduce
        or even
        close space.
        So, how to deal with a co-facilitator of the kind you describe?
        It depends, of course.
        One way to avoid this destraction is to simply strike the
        position of
        co-facilitator.
        Have a great day
        mmp

        On 26.04.2013 01 <tel:26.04.2013%2001>:44, Carmela Ariza wrote:

            Thanks Kari for your thoughts and suggestions.

            How would you deal then with a co-facilitator who has a very
            clear
            position on issues that are being tackled and who runs the
            risk of
            compromising neutrality of the team of facilitators?

            Will take a look at the Amsterdam Musical Lecture on Open
            Space soon.
            This seems interesting...

            Carms
            /*If there is to be any peace it will come through being,
            not having. --
            Henry Miller*/
            
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            *From:* Kári Gunnarsson <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            *To:* Carmela Ariza <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>; World wide Open Space
            Technology email list <[email protected].__org
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            *Sent:* Friday, 19 April 2013, 7:35
            *Subject:* Re: [OSList] What does neutrality of a
            facilitator mean in
            Open Space?

            Hi Carmela

            I am perhaps not the best on neutrality, I am easily swept
            off my feet
            in passion for this or that, and usually I like to marvel in
            the novelty
            for a short while.

            I don't think there is any one truth that we can speak here.
            There is
            some big notion of neutrality in the academia, somehow born
            from the
            abstract thinking of the scientific methought. There is this
            belief that
            if I am to close too or worse - one of the locals, then I
            must be to
            bias to speak any truth.

            But what I have found is that if I am the owner or manager
            of the item
            in question, then I might have some previews thoughts and
            dreams that I
            may try to enforce it in the process with no regards to the
            underlying
            reality of the matter, if given the possibility.

            Also if this person is someone I am trying to please, I may
            be to
            co-dependent towards any power play that he might use for
            the same
            reasons.

            There is always the spiritual work of begin willing to be
            present and
            holding the space open by keeping a check on my charisma
            while the
            discussions take place.

            As soon as I try to force the outcome by closing the space,
            then the
            space is no longer open. I sacrifice the productivity by
            forcing my own
            will of outcome upon the group. The only way for me to not
            do this is
            simply to not have a way about how the outcome should be. If
            I am not
            willing to not have a way, then I have some personal work to
            do by
            cheeking my motives and fears and let go of them.

            If this is not possible, then I would suggest a twinning,
            where you find
            someone not in our department to do your open space and then
            do same for
            them.

            But I think that I am allowed to care deeply and have an
            opinion as long
            as my personal homework is done and I am spiritually fit to
            not have a
            way, and to let them have their own experience.

            I also have an experience where a small group where half of
            the group
            was familiar with Open Space, we decided to hold the space
            as a group
            and participate in our own open space. There was no external
            sponsor or
            external facilitator, but we managed to hold the space open
            because we
            cared.

            I like to end with an Amsterdam Musical lecture on Open Space:
            http://youtu.be/BgcomPDIUHY

            On 18 April 2013 22:40, Carmela Ariza
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:carmela_ariza@yahoo.__com
            <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                 Dear OST friends,

                 I would like to hear your thoughts on neutrality of
            facilitators in
                 OST. Below are some specific questions...

                 What does it mean in practice?
                 If you are an interested party or have a stake in the
            outcomes, how
                 must you facilitate?
                 What are the ways to maintain neutrality (towards
            participants and
                 topic/outcomes) even if the facilitator is also
            interested in the
                 quality of the participation and also the outcomes?

                 Your inputs/insights will be highly appreciated -
            especially sharing
                 of experiences.

                 Cheers,

                 Carms
                 /*If there is to be any peace it will come through
            being, not
                 having. -- Henry Miller*/

            
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