Dear Adriana,
I just had a look at the little map that Dan included in his mail with
the subject line "Quebec City by the way of Sherbrooke" and it seemed to
me that Drummondville might be closest place to Montreal AND Annick
Corriveau lives in Drummondville, she is on the world map, look here
http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/moreinfo/businesscard.php?p_id=728&country_name=Canada&c_id=34
she probably knows the best place to meet in Drummondville and who
knows, wants to join you and Dan. A little Stammtisch.
In case you meet Dan on his trip in Drummondville, I would love to hear
about it.
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
On 27.10.2013 05:17, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring wrote:
Micheal: DO you mean Drummondville in Quebec or is it another place
called like this?
Adriana
2013/10/26 Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com
<mailto:mmpannw...@gmail.com>>
This puzzled me and still puzzles me: The notion that we open space.
I always stumble over it when I hear someone saying that. Why is
that done?
In my frame, I just call it: I make an introduction.
And sometimes I say: The sponsor opens the space (does a 3-Minute
whatever) and then introduces me to the crowd, best by saying: and
here is Michael.
I did this once when I was sponsor and introduced Harrison as
facilitator by saying "And here is Harrison" and sat down. It dawned
on him in about 3 seconds that he was on.
The role of the facilitator, another grand question for Utrecht.
And all of you who find it too far away: This is actually the reason
why we do the European OSonOS in the years when WOSonOS is simply
too far away for some... and for some years now for me, too.
So next year, when it is in Belgrade, there will be no "European"
OSonOS... hold it, be prepared to be surprised.
Love that invitation that Dan extended... Drummondville seems a real
possibility.
cheers
mmp
On 26.10.2013 20:26, Harrison Owen wrote:
Dan you are totally correct. The sentence structure is a mess. I
knew
that when I said it, and said it intentionally... to make a point:
“Opening” an OST is a serious joke. It is serious because useful
good
stuff happens, and it is a joke because we don’t really open
anything.
It already is (open). What we do do is playfully remind people
of what
they already know, but may have forgotten. Emphasis:
_play_fully. Law,
Principles, and Final Admonition, all best done with a smile J
ho
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Howdy Harrison,
This background story on the "wonderful internal contradiction" does
explain the curiously dissonant sentence structure of "Be
prepared to be
surprised."
"Be prepared to be surprised" is a directive, a structure that is
dissonant and might even be in conflict with the concepts of
self-management, self-governance, self-organization et al.
I have been studying, arranging and facilitating OST meetings
for over 5
years, and I just noticed this curious fact for the 1st time.
Probably something to do with the books I'm reading lately.
And this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin
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Austin pointed out that we use language to /do/ things as well as to
/assert/ things, and that the utterance of a statement like "I
promise
to do so-and-so" is best understood as /doing/ something — /making a
promise/ — rather than making an assertion about anything. Hence the
name of one of his best-known works: "How to do Things with Words".
Kind Regards,
Dan
On 10/26/13 11:38 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
you couldnt, because you are already dead
mmp
On 26.10.2013 17:35, Harrison Owen wrote:
Actually Dan – it is and always has been a serious joke,
with (I think)
a wonderful internal contradiction. If you were really
prepared to be
surprised, you couldn’t be surprised... or could you J
ho
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*Subject:* [OSList] : Speech acts
When responding to Jenifer's thoughts earlier, I realized:
The slogan "Be Prepared to Be Surprised" is a most
interesting one
in OST.
It is actually an illocutionary speech act.... of type
"*/Directive/*".
So, located here in OST, baked into it, we have a specific
slogan that
is attempting to *cause* the hearer to take a particular
action, e.g. a
request, *commands* and advice. A directive!
I wonder if the undeniably directive structure of "Be
Prepared to Be
Surprised" really aligned with the
intention/spirit/philosophy of OST.
Dan
Background links:
What is a speech act?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts>
A */speech act/* in linguistics
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>> and the philosophy of
language
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Philosophy_of_language
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language>>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Philosophy_of_language
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language>> is an
utterance that has performative function in language and
communication.
What is an illocutionary act?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Illocutionary_act
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act>
*Illocutionary act* is a term in linguistics
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>> introduced by the
philosopher
John L. Austin
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin>>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin>> in his
investigation of the various aspects of speech acts
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts>>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts>>.
What is a Directive illocutionary act?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Illocutionary_act#Classes_of___illocutionary_acts
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_illocutionary_acts>
*directives* = speech acts that are to *cause the hearer to
take a
particular action*, e.g. requests, commands and advice
More than you asked for:
What is a Commissive speech act?
*commissives* = speech acts that commit a speaker to some
future
action,
e.g. promises and oaths
On 10/24/13 1:29 PM, Jenifer Toksvig wrote:
Dan wrote: >> Consider the man who loves a certain
woman, and
waits
for the current trend of her interest in him to
change. He is goal
seeking without controlling. Likewise, trend-following
market
traders do not attempt to create, control or make
trends. They
simply identify & ride them, while seeking wealth. <<
Waiting and seeking are still forms of controlling.
Your loving
man
has chosen to wait for his goal rather than (to coin a
phrase)
being
prepared to be surprised by another woman. He may not
be trying to
control her, but he’s still trying to control the
situation in
a way
that he thinks will allow him to achieve his goal.
Those who seek wealth do likewise: they don’t randomly
ride the
trends, they identify them and make choices about how
to ride
them,
in order to obtain wealth. That is control.
I don’t think it’s possible to be goal-oriented and
try to exert
some kind of control over the process, unless your
goal is… to
have
no goal. Actually, even being prepared to be surprised
is a
goal. A
sort of wonderfully ridiculous one.
Jen x
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