This might be a good place mfor me to offer again my free little e-book called 
The Tao of Holding Space, which is a rewriting of the Tao Teh Ching focussed on 
just these kinds of questions:

http://chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/?p=1040

Enjoy!

Chris

On Apr 22, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote:

> June – “The focus of being present can at times be so exhausting!  Finding a 
> balance is so important but in our fast paced, ever present technology world, 
> I struggle with this.”
>  
> June, I think you have just put your finger on the nub of the issue: “I 
> struggle with this.” If my own experience is any guide, becoming present is 
> inversely related to the struggle thereof. In a word, I think you are working 
> much too hard. Everybody will find their own way, but I find that when my 
> sense of presence slips away, the antidote is quite simply, STOP! Close your 
> eyes and breath slowly until the sensation of your flowing breath, in and 
> out, simply washes all the trivia away.
>  
> I understand this can be difficult in the midst of total chaos (a classroom, 
> for example), but it is possible. And that possibility is enhanced if at some 
> other time (before or after) you take a longer time to gently and freely do 
> the same thing. It’s called practice. If you do that on some regular basis, I 
> think you will find that when the  roof falls in and everything else seems in 
> shambles... even then it is totally possible to restore you sense of center. 
> It may only be an instant as the clock would measure it, but it is not about 
> how long, but how deeply. Try it. Works for me.
>  
> Harrison  
>  
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> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of June
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:11 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Being present & presence
>  
> Thank you to Harrison & David for this conversation that has peaked my 
> attention.  Being present and having presence is key!   This does not relate 
> specifically to OST but to my work in post-secondary.  Successful and 
> effective teachers are present and have presence; how do we all get there and 
> stay there 100% of the time?!  And how can I help the students to be present 
> when they are pulled in many directions as education asks so much of them?  
>  
> The focus of being present can at times be so exhausting!  Finding a balance 
> is so important but in our fast paced, ever present technology world, I 
> struggle with this.  
>  
> As a beginner in OST I will be mindful of being present & having presence.  
>  
> June
> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 2014-04-22, at 9:30, "Harrison Owen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> David said: “I'm curious about your hunch about why being totally present 
> makes a difference.”
>  
> And David, I am curious about your use of the word “hunch.” Truth to tell, 
> the power of Presence for the facilitator is one of the few things that I am 
> totally certain of when it come to the facilitator’s effective role in Open 
> Space. When the facilitator is really (totally) present, just about 
> everything else that the facilitator may or may not do or say don’t make that 
> much difference.
>  
> And what, you might ask, is Presence? Doubtless there are a many answers as 
> there are folks who think or talk about it, but for me it goes something like 
> this...
>  
> I think we all know when we are not present – neatly caught in the phrase, 
> “Here but not all there.” You know the syndrome. The present moment becomes 
> virtually invisible, drowned in a fog of “might have beens,” “could have 
> beens,” “ought to have beens.” We are so worried and/or involved in the past 
> and the future that NOW is just about eliminated. No space.
>  
> At a practical level, this renders us virtually blind. And even with our best 
> efforts, we find ourselves responding to just about everything except what is 
> immediately in front of us. Such a condition is not conducive to  effective 
> behavior under any circumstance, but in the unique situation of a facilitator 
> in Open Space, I find it just takes you right out of the game.
>  
> Genuine Presence is a wonderful thing, not only for the person who achieves 
> it, but also (and maybe equally) for anybody in the neighborhood. With 
> presence comes deep awareness of our surroundings at all levels...mental, 
> physical, spiritual. This is rich fare for whoever experiences it, but that 
> richness is shared. I don’t like the image very much, but real presence is 
> like a vacuum cleaner... drawing in, appreciating, becoming a deep witness of 
> what transpires. The effects of this can be multiple, but for people in the 
> presence of a Real Presence the experience is one of radical appreciation, 
> acceptance... we might say love.
>  
> The image of the vacuum cleaner is really awkward, but it does capture my 
> experience that Presence initiates a vacuum which creates massive space, 
> available for the growth of the people in their power. And in Open Space that 
> is my purpose, my job as facilitator. I think.
>  
> Harrison  
>  
>  
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
>  
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> Camden, Maine 04843
>  
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> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:08 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries
>  
> Harrison,
>  
> Thanks for your response to this. I was serious.....as this seemed to be the 
> obvious question to me. Your answer as always brings up deep complex issues 
> in a rather straight forward manner.  
>  
> My experience beyond OS is that people (myself included) get stuck in 
> patterns where they do not embrace their full power. I love the purpose you 
> describe: " My purpose is to create an environment in which the people can 
> experience their own power to the maximum and do things they never thought 
> possible."  or your 
>  
> Outside of open space I find myself constantly at this boundary of doing some 
> to bring people to the edge of leaping into the space of their own power and 
> capability. Sometimes they leap, other times they don't. Your message here 
> has been a helpful reminder and a clearer frame of the boundary.
>  
> There is also another subtlety buried in your reply. Your described doing the 
> above by " being totally present yet absolutely invisible".  I'm curious 
> about your hunch about why being totally present makes a difference.
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
> David
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> David said -- “So I should do nothing........right?  or is my passion and 
> caring to do a little bit ok?” 
>  
> David, I suspect something of a joke, but I think your question is important. 
> At least it has always been important to me. Some long time ago, I recognized 
> that if I empower you, you are in my power. And by the same token, whatever I 
> do for you, you cannot, or do not need to do for yourself. It is true that 
> some of us (most of us?) like to do things for each other, and I think that 
> is wonderful. When somebody puts on a specially elegant party with close 
> attention to every detail of guest comfort – that can be a thing of beauty. 
> And if the martinis live up to the standards of everything else, I am all in! 
> J
>  
> But it remains true, I think, that if I empower you, you are in my power. And 
> whatever I do for you, you will not do for yourself.  There are clearly times 
> and situations where our “doing” is needed, important, even critical. But 
> there are equally other times – it all depends on the purpose or goals or 
> situation.
>  
> So in the peculiar situation of facilitating an Open Space: Why do we do it? 
> Doubtless each person will have to answer that one for themselves, but I am 
> very clear why I take on the role of facilitator. My purpose is to create an 
> environment in which the people can experience their own power to the maximum 
> and do things they never thought possible. To achieve this objective, the 
> people will need the most time/space available – which means that I need to 
> fill up as little space/time as possible. Something about being totally 
> present and absolutely invisible.
>  
> Sometimes I know that my fellows may have felt that I was being uncaring, 
> particularly when I left people to struggle with an inability to express 
> themselves fully, a difficulty with language, or even physical barriers. But 
> what I discovered over and over, and over again is that people have a 
> marvelous capacity to help each other, and further – that when they learn to 
> help, or maybe even more importantly, ask for help... Everybody is stronger.
>  
> So what do I do? As little as possible. And the reward has been to witness 
> amazing growth.
>  
> Yes there are times when an emergent situation seemed to require a hand. But 
> even in those situations I have found it useful to wait just a little bit 
> longer than I felt comfortable, and more often than not a way was found, not 
> of my doing.
>  
> And on other occasions, where I did sort of jump in, I was taught a lesson. I 
> remember particularly an Open Space I did with the North West Regional 
> Advisory Council of the AARP. Average age: well past 80. There was something 
> like 150 in the group, and the discussions were fast, furious and definitely 
> passionate. One particular lady, obviously well past 80, just happened to 
> have posted THE ISSUE. I don’t remember what it was, but I caught up with her 
> at the computers as she was writing her report. She had pages of flip chart 
> paper, and clearly didn’t see too well. I think it may have been the first 
> time she had confronted a computer, up close and personal and her typing 
> skills were of the One Finger variety.  Truly I felt sorry for her.
>  
> I sat down beside her and offered to help. She stopped her work, sat silently 
> for a moment, and then suddenly turned to face me saying, “Young man, I will 
> type my own report!” She did, and I learned something: One more thing not to 
> do.
>  
> Harrison
>  
>  
>  
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
>  
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> Camden, Maine 04843
>  
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> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 3:25 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries
>  
> Harrison,
>  
> So I should do nothing.......right?   or is my passion and caring to do a 
> little bit ok? 
>  
> How do I decide?
>  
> David  :)
>  
> 
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> David – good to hear from you. And yes I too believe that the invitation is 
> most important. And we can even help, a little bit. But generally speaking I 
> suspect folks tend to work much too hard in this area as well. When there is 
> a clear issue that people really care about (perhaps THE essential 
> precondition for opening space / self organization), I find that the people 
> involved usually have a word for it, maybe one or two. Those words may make 
> absolutely no sense to us and/or even turn us off... but we aren’t the people 
> who count. Actually I find that when folks take a lot of time and effort 
> defining their issue, there is a high likelihood that they really don’t have 
> one (issue) – or at least one that they really care about.  I guess this is 
> another area where the conventional wisdom is rather turned on its head. 
> Conventionally we might think of an invitation as an effort to convince 
> people to come. This may be too strong, but I rather think that one sign of a 
> good invitation for an Open Space is that it drives people away. Or more 
> precisely, it quickly separates those who truly care from the “merely 
> curious.” At the end of the day the critical thing for me is not how many 
> people come, but rather how much they cared. Five people who care a whole 
> bunch are infinitely more effective that 50 people who just show up. I think.
>  
> Harrison
>  
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
>  
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> Camden, Maine 04843
>  
> Phone 301-365-2093
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>  
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>  
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:54 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries
>  
> Harrison,
>  
> I'm catching up on my email and finally have had time to read your response 
> here re containers. I agree with your perspective above fully. I see the 
> topic of what people care about as the focus or container for the 
> conversation. It is self-emergent and we can't force it...we are bystanders 
> or midwives. I do believe we can influence the forming process though. For 
> example; a clear invitation to discuss what's urgent and important, providing 
> a time, place, and safe space to have the conversation all seem to coalesce 
> the energy and support it either mobilizing or dissipating as the case may 
> be. I do believe as actors that care we are co-creators in the 
> process.....although we can't control it. Maybe this is an attractor from 
> complexity language ...or perhaps as I refer to it....it is the container of 
> the conversation.....and we're describing the same thing.
>  
> Best as always,
>  
> David
>  
> 
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> David – I have known Glenda for some years, and have always found her to be 
> bright, fun and contributory. She has some wonderful insights about self 
> organization, and she works very hard. As a good academic, she certainly does 
> her detail, sometimes a bit more than I feel I want or need, but good for all 
> of that. However, when it comes to enhancing our function in a self 
> organizing world (or Open Space), I suspect she is working a bit too hard. 
> She and her fellows have developed a whole series of approaches and exercises 
> which enable you to do what I find pretty much happens all by itself. But 
> that is probably just me. And for those of you who want to know more about 
> Glenda, I suggest her latest book --
>  
> http://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Action-Leveraging-Uncertainty-Organization-ebook/dp/B00C3WSKV4/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1396971594&sr=1-1&keywords=glenda+eoyang
>  
> And now back to containers and boundaries. The issue (our differences) may be 
> purely semantic  – but maybe not. As I think back over lots of Open Spaces, 
> and more particularly what I might call the natural appearance of Open Space 
> (Tahrir Square, for example, or the coffee pot) I fully agree that from the 
> outside they all look like bounded/contained experiences. There seems to be 
> an inside and an outside, a container of some sort. But the question for me: 
> – Is that boundary/container externally imposed, and therefore prior to the 
> process of self organization as a precondition – or is the boundary/container 
> a PRODUCT of the process of self organization?  As I read Glenda, she would 
> opt for the former: Container as precondition. I find myself coming down on 
> the other side – The apparent container is actually a product of the process. 
> In a word, what starts out unbounded and disassociated (random people and 
> things) coalesces into a meaningful form, or better, organism/organization – 
> which is what self organization is all about, I think.
>  
> I grant you that in an Open Space the “room” would seem to be a pre-existing 
> container, but I don’t see it as essential. In fact I’ve “done” a number of 
> Open Space in the middle of an open field. And when you look at natural 
> occurrences, I think it becomes quite clear that pre-existing 
> boundaries/containers don’t really have much to do with what is happening. 
> They may be convenient or inconvenient, but not determinative. The other 
> things you mention (time slots, bulletin board, etc.) don’t fit for me 
> either. Helpful to be sure, but you can get along quite well without any of 
> it, or so I’ve found.
>  
> So what is going on? My sense is that self organization with humans (in Open 
> Space and/or everyday) commences when some sort of a vector of caring shows 
> up which draws people together. Someone, somewhere, sometime says, or just 
> thinks, “I care about... Not just a little bit, but I really care and am 
> prepared to take responsibility for what I care about. ” If this care/concern 
> is shared – and others care for the same thing, but maybe in very different 
> ways... the ball starts rolling.
>  
> In Open Space, this caring is made concrete and specific with the invitation. 
> Of course, when the invite is sent out nobody has a clue whether anybody will 
> come... but if they care, they will come, and given a date/place, electronic 
> or physical they will all show up in one time/space. The vector of caring 
> will draw them in...
>  
> If the story I am telling roughly reflects the facts on the ground, I think 
> there are some interesting and serious implications for the role of the 
> facilitator and the function of the container. EVERYTHING is well on the way 
> before there is a facilitator in sight or container at hand. In a word, the 
> system, from the first moment of its emergence does it all by itself. We are 
> bystanders, midwives at best. And the container (whatever that might be) is 
> the product of the process ... and not the precondition or cause.
>  
> Harrison
>  
>  
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
>  
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> Camden, Maine 04843
>  
> Phone 301-365-2093
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>  
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> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:26 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries
>  
> Harrison,
>  
> I think this is one of the few times I have a different point of view that 
> you. I believe OS's have natural containers built in. I also believe you need 
> a container for open space to be effective. I think the difference stems from 
> having a different definition or viewpoint on what a container is and can be. 
> My view has been heavily influenced by Glenda Eoyang's theory and work in 
> this area. For something new to emerge from self organization something has 
> to hold our bind the diverse agents together for them to have exchanges 
> across their differences.  
>  
> - The room or space the OS is being held in is a container....
> - A concept or idea that people care about brings the people together.....it 
> binds or contains them creating the space to have the conversations to 
> emerge. 
> - The bulletin board is a container.....scheduling a specific conversation at 
> a specific place and time.
>  
> In my experience there are always multiple containers that are massively 
> intertwined.
>  
> My thoughts along the way.
>  
> David
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Michael Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Harrison, for your response to my question on 'boundaries', 
> particularly your paraphrasing of my question - which was spot on.  One thing 
> I've taken from this brief conversation is that although considering the 
> boundaries can be useful, we also need to accept that boundaries are never 
> entirely clear, always moving on a spectrum from clear to uncertain/murky and 
> if we, as a sponsor or facilitator, get overly bound up with boundaries then 
> we might have moved, once again, into being too controlling. 
> 
> Michael Wood 
> Perth, Western Australia 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> Message: 1 
> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:01:40 -0400 
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> It has been common for us to speak of Containers and Boundaries as somehow 
> essential to Open Space. I can't quite find the place, but I do remember 
> saying something like that myself, as in, "The role of the facilitator is to 
> create the container..." It certainly made sense at the time, but I always 
> felt a little uncomfortable with the image. Too mechanical, coercive... too 
> something. And Michael has brought the subject up again. "So...here we have a 
> situation where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state of complex flux and 
> uncertainty. The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there is no 'locum' 
> pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the existing 
> pastor...etc." You might call it "messy boundaries" -- and he raises the 
> question whether one should press ahead with Open Space, or wait until the 
> "mess" is settled down. On the one hand, Michael "hunches" that one should 
> press on -- Open Space. But his hesitation comes, I suspect, from the prior 
> notion that fixed boundaries/containers are necessary for an effective Open 
> Space. What to do? 
> 
> Some thoughts (new ones for me): Containers are great for cooking soup, but 
> are unneeded and maybe even problematical in Open Space. It is all about 
> holding things together. In Open Space groups of people come together to deal 
> with their issues. At the very least that would mean gathering in some common 
> time/space, be that physical or electronic. It would seem that this 
> co-location could be facilitated were some suitable "container" provided, 
> presumably by the sponsor/facilitator. This certainly makes sense, and as a 
> rough way of speaking, it seems to describe what is going on. But as I think 
> about it, I think we may be missing a most important point. Coming together 
> in Open Space happens because people care to come. And they continue their 
> connection as long as they care to do so. (Law of two feet) 
> 
> >From the "outside" it might look as if they were held in place by a 
> container, but that is illusory. The actual dynamics are centripetal, the 
> force is mutual attraction... people are "there" because they care to be 
> there and not because they are contained by some external structure. In a 
> word, we as facilitators really don't do a thing, and creating a container is 
> the least of what we DON'T do. The people, from the beginning, do it all. 
> 
> 
> Of course, there are situations where groups come together under orders, 
> mandates, whatever. And they are definitely "contained." It is also true that 
> the tighter that container, the less likely self organization will take 
> place. If true, providing a container is not only unnecessary but also 
> destructive. In the name of Opening space, we effectively close it. Or so I 
> suspect it might be. Just thinking... 
> 
> Anyhow Michael, should my mental peregrinations lead anywhere useful, it 
> would seem that your "hunch" was spot on. Forget the boundaries/container. 
> Just invite the space to open. 
> 
> Harrison 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Harrison Owen 
> 7808 River Falls Dr. 
> Potomac, MD 20854 
> USA 
> 
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Wood 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:59 PM 
> To: ' [email protected]' 
> Subject: [OSList] Open Space and boundaries 
> 
> A Case Study.... 
> One of the principles that I have generally worked with in Open Space is 
> helping the client get clear on the 'boundaries' of the space that's being 
> opened. For example, helping people who come into the space to know 'what up 
> for grabs here and what isn't? What decisions have already been made?' 
> 
> So picture this (purely hypothetical of course)....a church community in 
> which the pastor has (in many peoples' opinion) run off the rails and the 
> main church body is in the process of trying to dismiss him; the church is in 
> compete disarray and completely conflict ridden, many people have left; the 
> pastor who holds all the keys, banking passwords; church telephone 
> connections etc etc, has taken legal advice and had hunkered down in the 
> church owned house where he continues to hold the reigns of power (via some 
> of his 'allies' in the church) despite not formally being the Pastor of the 
> church anymore.... 
> 
> So...here we have a situation where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state 
> of complex flux and uncertainty. The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there 
> is no 'locum' pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the 
> existing pastor...etc etc. 
> 
> So in terms of 'Opening Space', do we wait a bit longer until some of the 
> legal boundaries are clarified, OR open space right away in the midst of the 
> mess....my hunch is the latter, but any thoughts from anyone? 
> 
> Cheers 
> Michael 
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