David – The connection between connectivity and complexity is a given as far as 
I am concerned. And I think we need to make a distinction between complexity 
and the awareness of complexity. I know it is common folk wisdom to recall the 
simpler life of yesterday, usually with some sense of lament for a lost time, 
but I rather suspect that the level of complexity is what is has always been – 
massive. What has changed is our capacity to perceive that complexity. If the 
story that the physicists tell is valid (and why not?) every neutrino, quark 
and boson – from the very first... is still rattling around somewhere, somehow 
exercising some force or impact. Seems like everything is connected – first to 
last, top to bottom, past to future. That’s Complexity! And most human beings 
for most of their time on earth didn’t have a clue.

 

>From where I sit, the fact that human beings are becoming increasingly aware 
>of the complexity of the cosmos of which we are an infinitesimal (nevertheless 
>complex) part, is good news indeed. Whether we can effectively and creatively 
>deal with this new awareness remains to be seen. But I am sure it will be 
>exciting.

 

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From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
Osborne
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:28 PM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Management and Organization

 

Chris, 

 

Thanks so much for this post....it has once again stirred my thinking on all of 
this.  

 

Another model that I find helpful that is similar to Cynfin is the agreement / 
certainty matrix. It adds another dimension to the problem solving which is 
even if we knew the answer could we get others to agree to do it??? It is based 
on the work of Ralph Stacy, I believe originally created by Brenda Zimmerman as 
a visual model:  

 

This is a link for those interested in more:  
http://dev.change-management-toolbook.com/mod/book/view.php?id=74 
<http://dev.change-management-toolbook.com/mod/book/view.php?id=74&chapterid=58>
 &chapterid=58 

 

The other thought that I have related to this discussion relates to the 
comments that more-and-more complex problems seem to be emerging based on the 
pace of Change. I once heard John Holland, one of the early contributors to the 
emergence/complexity field state that complexity id directly correlated to 
connectivity. As connectivity increases, there is greater potential for 
something new and different to emerge. If we look at how connectivity has 
increased over the past two decades It's easy to see why complexity is 
increasing. I'm actually surprised we haven't had more disruptive change. 

 

Onward and upward 

 

David 

 

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: 

I seek simplicity in trying to describe where and how Open Space does it’s 
magic. 

 

One of the ways I have had excellent success over the years in describing this 
work is derived from David Snowden’s work on the Cynefin framework.   

 

The short story is this: 

 

We are faced all the time with problems that are basically knowable, and 
problems that aren’t.  Knowable problems mean that with the right knowledge and 
expertise, they can be fixed.  A technical team can come together and analyse 
the causes, work with what’s available and craft a solution.  Then they can get 
an implementation plan in place and go ahead and do it.  These kinds of 
problems have a start line and a finish line.  When you are done, you are done. 
 Building a bridge is one of those kinds of problems.  You build it and there 
is no tolerance for failure.  It needs to be failsafe. 

 

Open Space doesn’t work well for those kinds of problems because the solution 
is basically already known, or at least knowable.  

 

Then there are problems for which no know solution exists, and even if you did 
get a solution, you can’t really “solve” the problem because the problem is due 
to a myriad of causes and is itself emergent. For example, racism.  Look around 
and you will find very few people that identify themselves as racists, but look 
at the stats for Canadian society for example and you see that non-white people 
are trailing in every indicator of societal success.  Essentially you are 
seeing the results of a racist society but no racists anywhere.  This is an 
emergent problem.  Racism itself is a self-organizing phenomenon, 
notwithstanding the few people that actively engineer racist environments.  
Such a problem didn’t really start anywhere and it can’t really end either.  
What is needed is a way of addressing it, moving the system away from the 
negative indicators and towards something else. 

 

In other words, this is a complex problem.   

 

The way to solve complex problems is to create many “strange attractors” around 
which the system can organize itself differently.  Open Space nis the best 
method I know of for creating such strange attractors, as they are born from 
the passion and responsibility of those that want to create change, and they 
are amplified by people coming together to work on these things. 

 

It’s “post and host” rather than “command and control.”  

 

And because you can’t be sure if things are going to work out, you have to 
adopt a particular mindset to your initiative: one that is “safe to fail.”  In 
other words, if it doesn’t work, you stop doing it.  If it does work, you do 
more of it.  And all the way along you build in learning, so that the system 
can see how change is made and be drawn towards those initiatives that are 
currently making a difference.  Certainly this kind of problem solving is not 
useful for building a bridge, as you cannot afford a failure there.  But for 
problems with no known solutions, it is brilliant.   

 

Harrison has spent decades outlining this simplicity in even less words than I 
have now and his writing and thinking is, and continues to be far ahead of it’s 
time and maybe a little under appreciated because it is delivered in simple 
terms like “don’t work so hard.”  But ultimately this is the best and most 
important advice for working in complex systems.   

 

Open Space.  Do it.  Learn. Do it again. Don’t work so hard. 

 

More than that really starts to build in the delusion that people can possibly 
know what to do.  From that place solutions will be deluded.  That they may 
work is pure luck.  Open Space offers us a disciplined approach to addressing 
complexity in an ongoing way.  Don’t be fooled by its simplicity. 

 

Chris 

 

On Jul 21, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Harrison Owen < [email protected]> wrote: 





Love what you are saying... and I think you may be working much too hard. From 
where I sit, the basic reality is that all the World is self-organizing. That 
includes all the stuff we think we “organized.” So the bottom line is – we are 
all self organizing, and some of us are doing it better. Which is to say that 
some folks are struggling to invent what is already happening “all by itself,” 
and others are allowing (appreciating) what is happening all by itself.  For 
me, Open Space is simply a great way of “practicing” what is already happening. 
Even if we think it isn’t. Or something. 

  

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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Management and Organization 

  

Hello Harrison, David S and David O, 

  

I find the thread of this conversation very interesting and inspiring. In my 
opinion, the success of using OS to transform businesses in self-organizing 
organizations depends of the way you do it. It is very different to use OS as a 
means to experience a different way of organization than using OS as a means to 
allow organizations to have an experience of themselves from a context of 
self-organization.  

  

An option of the first approach is to use OS as an isolated practice in the 
"old system". This way maybe it can help to fix something, but it is very 
possible that it is not going to make a real difference, if the organization 
does not transfer in any way the underlying conditions of OS to its everyday 
environment.  

  

An example of the second approach is to use OS as a Trojan horse, acting like a 
hacker. Under this scenario, the organization adopt OS as a common practice 
because its effectiveness to solve problems or to foster innovation, or 
whatever. This way, its continued use over time probably generates a new 
cultural context that facilitates the emergence of self-organization. It could 
take time, but the chance that self-organization put down roots is higher than 
with the first approach. 

  

Agustin 

PS - Recently I read a book that shows the cases of some organizations that are 
defying the "old system" very succesfully. The name of the book is Reinventing 
Organizations written  by Frederic Laloux. 

  _____  

From:  Harrison Owen < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>
To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' < 
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OSList] Management and Organization 

  

David, Listen to your words...  “ we're exploring the question of how can we 
have some structure and boundaries and  yet provide space for 
self-organization. It's hard to find models that enable both.” 

  

I hate to say it, and you won’t be surprised, but I think you are working much 
too hard. Sounds to me suspiciously like a variant of “organizing a self 
organizing system.” Especially that part about “find(ing) models.” The systems 
you are contemplating (your business and the Association) are their own best 
models. Nothing else will even come close because they are unique. And if self 
organization is anything like I think it is, one of its major activities is the 
creation of “structures and boundaries.” That, by definition, is what self 
organizing systems do, along with a few other things. So the key activity for 
me would be to stop looking for models, and start paying careful attention to 
how your two self organizing systems naturally express themselves in structure 
and form. 

  

Initially your task will be complicated by all those “other” structures and 
forms that have been laid on, arbitrarily I would say, just because it seemed 
like a good idea at the time – in accord with the latest “models,” or “accepted 
practice.” After all, we think we all know what an organization SHOULD look 
like. J 

  

But there is a way through the forest, I think, which is actually the “design 
principle” I employed in the development of Open Space Technology. You’ve heard 
it before. Think of one more thing NOT to do. Just keep striping away those 
forms and procedures that you thought to be essential for your organizations’ 
function. Don’t try to do it all at once, and start with what I might call the 
low hanging fruit. Those things that just get done, even though nobody can 
remember why. 

  

Then notice what happens. If something comes back, that is pretty good evidence 
that it was a natural form or structure, and your systems, in their own wisdom, 
felt the need. On the other hand, if it stays gone, just say bye, bye, enjoy 
the new space, and get on with your business. 

  

It is true, of course that some structures and forms are required by external 
authorities: Taxes, annual reports, and the like. In those situations, I have 
found it helpful to ask, “What is the minimal level of form and structure 
required to get the job done?” For some reason, people seem to make the 
simplest things unendingly complicated. In extremis there is a presumption that 
if it is simple, it can’t be any good. I’ve noticed this on more than one 
occasion with the public perception of OST, especially among those who have 
never been involved. I suppose this has something to do with the Expert 
Syndrome – if you make it complicated enough you will surely require the 
services of an Expert to help you through. For a fee of course. And to be 
honest, we in the OS community sometimes seem to be guilty of the same thing. 

  

So there are some suggestions to get started. If you want more, and probably 
more than you want – you might take a look at Part II of Wave Rider, “A Wave 
Rider’s Guide to the Future.” And for a slightly different slant see Part IV of 
the Power of Spirit, “The Care and Feeding of the Interactive Organization.” 
And just to be clear, an Interactive Organization is my term for a conscious, 
self organizing system. 

  

Harrison 

PS – And for the record, all of the above are by yours truly and available from 
Amazon.com and the publisher, Berrett-Koehler. 

  

Harrison Owen 

7808 River Falls Dr. 

Potomac, MD 20854 

USA 

  

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mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 6:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Management and Organization 

  

Harrison, 

  

I had to laugh at my own words as I re-read them.. ."support leaders in 
adopting approaches that move toward greater and greater levels of 
self-organization."    The system of course is self-organizing all the time !!! 
 

  

Opening space enables the system it to move closer and closer to high 
performance versus stuckness, stagnation, decline and death.  If I restate what 
I was trying to express, I think we can Open Space in big ways as an OS does 
and/or in small ways through the openness in leadership approaches that provide 
more space for passion, creativity, personal responsibility etc. This is 
working at the micro-level though versus the full paradigm shift you describe. 
I agree with your description whole-heartedly. 

  

You raise for me very pragmatic questions. Both in our small company, 
ChangeFusion, and in a global membership organization I'm involved in we're 
exploring the question of how can we have some structure and boundaries and  
yet provide space for self-organization. it's hard to find models that enable 
both. 

  

I'd love to hear if others have suggestions of examples. 

  

David 

  

  

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Harrison Owen < <mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected]> wrote: 

Hello David O. and David S. I’ve re-titled to give the thread a new name if 
only because I think it is headed in some new directions with hopefully a long 
and useful discussion in prospect. 

  

This discussion may get a little difficult as we attempt to define and 
understand the words we are using, “Management,” for example. I had in mind the 
more common garden variety of Management’s role in organizations. As Wikipedia 
(that source of all useful information) notes, “Despite the move toward 
workplace democracy, command-and-control organization structures remain 
commonplace as de facto organization structure.” (Wikipedia). Back in the old 
days a common definition of a good manager was one who, “Makes the plan, 
manages to the plan, and meets the plan.” And we all know how that was supposed 
to be done. Single word: Control. Lots of Command and Control. 

  

David has moved in new, interesting and effective directions saying, “What I 
have found is that as I'm able to share the conditions that support 
self-organization and how they can be integrated into individuals leadership 
approach that the leaders move toward approaches that support greater and 
greater self-organization.” 

  

I applaud the effort, but it seems to me it may be rather a half step. If I 
hear David’s words correctly, the fundamental understanding of “organization” 
remains unchanged (predesigned structure and controls with Leaders/Managers in 
charge) and the new effort is to enable “leaders (to) move toward approaches 
that support greater and greater self-organization.” Tactically I can certainly 
understand the approach, but what if organization is fundamentally, 
essentially, in totality – Self Organizing? If that is the situation, “greater 
and greater self organization” makes little sense for a very simple reason. It 
is all self organizing to begin with! But I guess that is just splitting hairs, 
and for sure the heart is moving in the right direction. 

  

The revolutionary in me (and yes there is some of that  J ) would dearly love 
to shake the organizational world by the scruff of the neck saying something 
like, Move on, Wake up! You just can’t get there from here. And for a 
certainty, such an approach would have no chance of success. There needs to be 
a change in view, I am sure -- but forced change, were it even possible, falls 
back on the old way which wasn’t effective then and won’t work now. And there 
is another way which unfortunately requires some patient waiting. But we may 
not have to wait that long. 

  

It is a very common lament -- that, “things just aren’t working.” What “things” 
and the nature of their dysfunction are often left unsaid, but the universal 
uneasiness is pretty clear. To date, the usual response has been to do more and 
more of what we’ve always done, but maybe with a different name (Quality 
Circles, Process Re-Engineering, Dialogue, maybe even AGILE when mandated 
etc.). The results have not been inspiring. Some would even include Open Space 
Technology as a new tool. But I don’t think that works either if the intent is 
to fix the old system. 

  

As the lament continues, some strange things are happening. Every now and again 
something actually WORKS! And it works even when the plans are busted, the 
leadership is incompetent, the environment sour and threatening. Who knows how 
or why – but it worked. The Brits usually call this Muddling Through, which is 
what happens when everything goes a different way than it was supposed to – but 
it all turns out fine. Phew! 

  

There is another name for this strange phenomenon. Anomaly. Anomaly literally 
means being outside the law (lawless) from the Greek a (without) nomos (law).  
Anomalies cause one to scratch the head in wonder...How on earth could THAT 
happen? Most often, we just pass them by with a dismissive, “weird!” I think 
that is a mistake. 

  

Peter Vaill, an old friend and colleague, had a knack for seriously noticing 
anomalies. He observed that some organizations performed at levels of 
excellence that definitely blew away the competition. He called them High 
Performing Systems. The problem was, these systems broke all the rules of how 
organizations were supposed to work. As a Professor of Management, Peter could 
be accused of a flawed effort because instead of attempting to analyze how they 
worked, Peter contented himself with a delightful description of what they did, 
which he captured in a short paper (1977), The Behavioral Characteristics of 
High Performing Systems. I say delightful because he wrote in a totally 
colloquial fashion, and definitely not in the style of Academe, even though he 
was the (then) Dean of the Business School at George Washington University. 

  

Writing almost 10 years before Open Space Technology, Peter seems prescient, 
for his “Behavioral Characteristics” are a perfect description of the common 
behavior at every Open Space I have ever seen. Taking a tall leap in logic, I 
have argued (Wave Rider) that the link between Peter’s High Performing Systems, 
and what we have experienced in Open Space is the phenomenon of self 
organization. Or put somewhat differently, High Performing Systems are well 
functioning self organizing systems. And in function and effect they are 
definitely anomalous for according to the accepted wisdom, they simply could 
not happen or do what they do! 

  

On the subject of Anomaly and the importance of same, the work of Thomas Kuhn 
comes to mind. Author of, “The Structures of Scientific Revolutions,” Kuhn gave 
us that wonderful concept, “paradigm,” as in Paradigm Shift. As an historian of 
Science, Kuhn describes how the scientific world grew in wisdom and stature, 
passing through several understandings of the nature of things, on the way to 
new (and presumably better) ones. That passage he called, Paradigm Shifts. 
According to his story, the scientific  or learned community held a certain 
view of reality for a period of time, which worked very well, and seemed to 
explain most, if not all, of the phenomenon of their experience. This view 
(paradigm) was taken as The Truth, and defended with ferocity. For example, 
everybody “knew” at one time that the Earth was the center of everything and 
those who disagreed were considered heretics, and often dispatched. Galileo, 
for instance. Then funny little anomalies began to show up as people observed 
the heavens. If the anomalies were not an illusion then Earth centeredness was 
false – which everybody knew must be wrong, insanity, or worse. But the 
anomalies refused to go away, which made people more and more uncomfortable, to 
say nothing of angry. Then one shinning day the view shifted. Same old heavens 
as before but seen with totally new eyes. Paradigm shift. Very powerful and 
never comfortable. 

  

This brief sojourn into the History of Science can be helpful to our present 
concerns, I think, for we are facing a very similar situation in our 
understanding of organizations, as well as management. The traditional 
understanding of organization, and therefore management, has been around for a 
long time. As with all paradigms, it is taken to be The Truth, and those who 
challenge will inevitably be subject to dismissal at the beginning, changing to 
discomfort, and perhaps ending with anger. The reason is very simple. The 
investments in this particular paradigm are enormous, and include ways of life, 
ways of making a living, and for some, life itself. Messing with all of that 
cannot be done lightly. 

  

And yet the anomalies persist. Some are quite subtle and are perceived only as 
a growing sense that “things are not working as we expected.” However, when the 
system/organization seems broken, it is clear that we must fix it and we think 
we know how. If the organizational process is screwy, then obviously we need 
Process Re-Engineering. But it didn’t work. We try harder and harder, doing 
variants of what we’ve always done, and (surprisingly) we get what we’ve always 
got. But hope springs eternal, and someday we will find The Fix. Or so it says 
in all the books. Maybe. 

  

Other anomalies are not so subtle. Open Space Technology is such an anomaly. I 
believe it to be true that Open Space violates virtually all principles and 
practices of traditional organizational theory and management practice. To the 
extent that it (OS) works as we have experienced it working – much if not all 
of current practice is called into question. My view is doubtless biased, but 
some 20 years ago, a senior official from the American Society for Training and 
Development (pardon the repeat) seemingly had the same impression when he told 
me, after hearing what happened in Open Space, “Harrison, if what you say is 
true, then 99% of what we are currently do does not need to be done.” I would 
have been greatly relieved had I been able to argue with him. But I couldn’t. I 
can’t. 

  

So David(s) – where does that leave us? Discretion might dictate picking up our 
toys and going home. Others might suggest heading for the barricades. 
Personally I don’t think either possibility is very useful. I simply cannot 
deny what I have experienced in Open Space, nor can I resist the compulsion to 
share the experience in whatever way with whomsoever might show up. I think the 
bottom line may come down to: Move slowly with empathy, and be prepared to 
wait. 

  

And what would that mean for us and what we do...? At a practical level, it 
could mean something like this. Let’s suppose that the Management of a very 
traditional Organization shows up on our doorstep. They are concerned that 
organizational function is dismal, the people seem to dislike each other and 
what they are doing, and profits have disappeared. The request is simple: Help! 
 Somewhere they heard about Open Space and believe (hope) it could fix their 
system, or at least make a start. 

  

It sounds like a marvelous opportunity, and a natural response would be, YES! 
At least that would be my response. All the essential preconditions for OS seem 
to be in place (real issue, complexity, etc) – BUT ... There are some issues to 
consider. First, if by “fixing their system” the client means that the 
“traditional Organization” is going to be put back together as it once was, 
that is a real problem, I think. The reason is simple – the root of their 
problems is precisely the system (understanding of organization) they were 
working under. Make it even stronger. Were I to design a system that would 
maximize separation and alienation, minimize creativity and collaboration – I 
don’t think I could do any better than the system they were operating under. 
Fixing, or restoring that system would only compound their misery. Secondly, 
Doing an Open Space in that organization is quite likely to increase the 
general dissatisfaction with how things are done. As one senior executive from 
a very traditional organization said to me following an Open Space we did, “You 
have ruined me for work in this place. I am not sure whether to thank you or 
hate you.” Talk about being caught on the horns of a dilemma! If fully 
successful with my task (opening space), I will have failed the clients’ 
primary expectations (fixing the system) and simultaneously raised the level 
employee dissatisfaction. 

  

All true, I think. And I would still do the Open Space, but my reasons could 
cause some problems unless very carefully explained, and that explanation 
itself is problematical. At one level I will do the Open Space because I know 
that it will enable people to be more comfortable, powerful, sure of 
themselves. That’s the easy part. But at another level I will do the Open Space 
in order to introduce anomaly... one more nudge towards Paradigm Shift. 

  

I know full well that I can’t shift paradigms for people. The same is true of 
Transformation, which has a lot to do with paradigm shift. Both will happen all 
by themselves...or not. But I can and will nudge when given the opportunity. 
After that it is all about waiting... 

  

So what do you think about all that? 

  

Harrison 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Trust 

  

I'm not sure I agree OS fails as a management tool.....Self-Organization has 
become the lens I look at all my work as an individual who supports groups and 
organizations in change and in my leadership and management development work. 
It's not an either / or for me os works or doesn't work as a management tool.  

  

Leadership is simply supporting an organization in moving toward its goals. The 
invitation in OS is the goal or issue that people care about. What I have found 
is that as I'm able to share the conditions that support self-organization and 
how they can be integrated into individuals leadership approach that the 
leaders move toward approaches that support greater and greater 
self-organization. This is not top-down, traditional leadership or management. 
As you propose in Wave-Rider Harrison, I believe the principles of OS / 
self-organization can be integrated as a leadership approach with great 
results. 

  

David 

  

  

  

  

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Harrison Owen < <mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected]> wrote: 

David – I would totally agree that OS  “ utterly fails as a management tool.” 
Then again I think that OS shares this fate/condition with all other 
“management tools,” at least as I understand “management” and “tool” in the 
context of enabling effective human performance. And thereby hang the beginning 
of a long and useful discussion, I think. 

  

ho 

  

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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 1:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Trust 

  

Ho indeed Harrison! OpenSpace opens space for freedom of spirit and heart, 
choice and the weaving of our fates and destinies with that of our world, it 
does not achieve complience and so, at least to the extent that people are to 
be managed... 

On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Harrison Owen < <mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected]> wrote: 

Brendan said: “And in my view , all germinating from that initial transfer of 
trust between mentor and sponsor” Right on! I don’t think it makes a bit of 
difference how elegantly one “does” the Open Space. It is really all about 
TRUST. When I said that anybody with a good heart and good mind can “do it,” 
that is just a long winded way of saying what I’ve always found to be true. 
Expertise is interesting. Integrity and Trust are essential. A new comer to the 
OS world, opening space for the very first time, muffing some lines, and 
forgetting others – can do every bit as well as a 20 year veteran. The coin of 
the realm is Integrity, authenticity, trust. But none of that should be news, 
for that trio is the bedrock of all positive human encounter, I think. Which 
may just be another way of pointing out that OS is not some special process we 
do, it is just life lived well. Or something. 

  

ho 

  

  

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mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brendan McKeague
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 12:57 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Sponsor PreWork Conversation (long) 

  

A very interesting question Chuni Li... 

  

The sponsor was being mentored by one of my colleagues in our local Open Space 
community of practice (Wave Riders) who suggested to him that OS was the right 
method/model for the task at hand.  As his coach (the formal role as perceived 
by the organisation), my colleague encouraged the sponsor to get in touch with 
me to avoid any perceived conflict of interest. The sponsor researched OS for 
himself first and then engaged me to provide the specialist 
knowledge....Harrison often says that anyone with a good heart and head can 
open space - and I agree - while at the same time, I acknowledge that 'Open 
Space wisdom' is often helpful, if not necessary, in situations of increased 
complexity and potential conflict.  

  

After his initial attraction to OS in theory, and as part of his research, the 
sponsor then ran a mini Open Space within his own jurisdiction to see how it 
worked in reality - he wished to speak from his lived experience when engaging 
with his higher-uppers.  He also watched a few of the growing library of 
YouTube clips that are so wonderful for educating potential sponsors.   

  

Now totally convinced, the transfer of trust was complete at various 
levels....trusting the process (OST works) AND trusting the facilitator (who 
was aligned with the essence of OST - i.e living in it) AND trusting that both 
facilitator and process were 'fit-for-purpose' in this context.  

  

And in my view , all germinating from that initial transfer of trust between 
mentor and sponsor 

  

Hope this story helps  

  

Cheers Brendan 

  

  

  

On 31/01/2014, at 1:10 PM,  <mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected] wrote: 

  

Thank you Brendan for taking the time to organize and share this information - 
so precious and such a generous gift! 

  

I am curious about the sponsor who "put his neck out" to make the event happen. 

Had he experienced OST before? Did you have to "convince" him? What made him 
willing to "jump through the hoops?" Was it the OST process or was it you that 
he trusted? 

  

Chuni Li 

New Jersey 

  

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