Hi John - looks like there's lots unfolding around your questions and experience on the OSList. It's beautiful to watch the flow of thoughts!

What you say resonates with me a great deal. I certainly experience some space feeling open and others feeling closed. And in my own experience of space being closed, there seems to be none of the freedom implicit in 'Open Space'. I notice a strong urge to want to go in there and fix all those bad organizations with closed space.

And what I'm getting from Harrison's thinking is not just that self-organization is always in operation, but that Space is actually always always always open. It's always inviting us into a deeper experience. We're just passing on that invite when we invite others into OST, and the more we experience that Openness, and that Welcome, the more effective we can be at making successful invitations for others to join us.

This seems to also match the core of most spiritual traditions. Maybe it's why Harrison recommends meditation be most of OST facilitation training.

    Harold


On 10/12/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:
Harold, interesting reflection on Open Space and victimhood.

To me it shows that, even if we are "always in Open Space", the space is not really open. It makes me think then that "always in Open Space" is really just saying that self-organisation is in operation. Perhaps that does not mean that we really have the freedom implicit in 'Open Space'.

Does that resonate?

For now, I have an outstanding reply to Daniel to get back to...



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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Daniel,

    It's been a while. I've offered only silence to authority as I've
    watched the list and reflected on this topic.

    Could it be that many of the most resonating posts on the OS List
    receive a response of silence? The theme of the antonym of
    "Lonely" rings in my ears around this question. The silence can be
    carried as indinewmaganik, beloved and accompanied by Spirit, like
    a question/session boldly convened, where no ones comes, alone but
    not lonely, at an Open Space - or in Life.

    This sense of lonely-antonym came again to me this morning as I
    listened to Karolina's voice in her blog post that included
    reflections before the WOSonOS on her walk, alone, through
    Belgrade seeing buildings deeply damaged from the recent wars. And
    her thoughts about how much she wanted things to happen, for
    people to step forward in action. But later, with the help of
    another attendee, she could shift to the abundance of what
    actually was present and happening in the WOSonOS. I want a lot of
    things to happen too. And maybe my wanting things to be different
    blocks my ability to enjoy what actually is happening.

    What does any of this have to do with Authority Distribution?

    Perhaps nothing ... or maybe everything?

    I quite enjoyed the link to the blog you added in your reply to
    me. The post had the title "Darwin meets Dilbert: Applying the Law
    of Two Feet to your next meeting." My goodness. How can Authority
    *not* have relevance in OST when we start out with a *LAW*. Laws
    are all about authority, no? But curiously, you allude that this
    Law removes the legitimacy of the victim role. If you're
    responsible for your experience in Open Space, if you're the
    victim, you're also the perpetrator. What I really most enjoyed in
    Jonathan Opp's blog post was his quote from Dr. Seuss.

    You have brains in your head.
    You have feet in your shoes.
    You can steer yourself in any direction you choose.

    Hey Harrison - this sounds a lot like what you told us when we
    visited you in Camden. And it definitely is the Law of Two feet in
    rhyme.

    So - ok Daniel. Another query for you? If *Open Space* is actually
    operating all the time, and Open Space invalidates the Victim
    role, does that mean we can't actually be Victims. If so, why are
    there so many? Could it be the roles of Victim/Perpetrator/Rescuer
    - could it be they are all illusions? Wizards cast spells, and we
    actually buy them? Does that mean Victims take on Victimhood
    willingly? That doesn't feel right, at least not completely. But
    maybe Open Space is something we wake up to. And if so, does that
    mean Authority is only alive in the dream?

    Or are we the ones inviting others into roles of Authority or lack
    there of?

    So, what actually is going on here?!? Are the inmates running the
    asylum? Or maybe they(we) should be?

        Blissfully Confused,
        Harold



    On 9/28/14 6:37 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
    Hi Harold,

    You say:

    /"..I struggle to translate is the concept of coercion and
    authority from the vantage of "it's all open space". Can we
    really be coerced? How are we all already "opting in" to empower
    the "authorities"?/

    //

    /"...Could we just be volunteering for the victim part of our
    stories?/

    //

    /"...I have some thoughts about this, but I wonder what you would
    say to such a challenge to the relevance of "authority" in OST?/


    Hmmm...interesting questions for sure.

    My current belief is that authorization dynamics are central to
    the general dynamics of Open Space. And if it is "Open Space all
    the time" then authorization dynamics as desribed in my essay are
    also there... all the time.

    Regarding the Open Space meeting format: If we begin at the
    beginning; that is, at the start of arranging an actual Open
    Space event in an organization, we immediately work to identify
    and locate someone "duly authorized" by the organization, to do
    the things the Sponsor does, and say the things the Sponsor says.
    Someone to occupy the Sponsor role. To do that, the person
    occupying the role must have substantial authority in the
    organization, usually of the formal variety.

    Right? Put another way: if the Sponsor is lacking in
    authorization, can they actually be effective? Larger question:
    Can the meeting still actually work? What about the post-meeting
    follow-through?

    So here we see how /authorization shows up a the very start of
    any contemplated Open Space event inside an organization/.



    One last thing: last time I checked, "victims" are kind of rare
    in Open Space. Something about the subtext of "the Law of 2 Feet...."

    "...The Law of Two Feet concept was published in an article by
    Harrison Owen <http://www.openspaceworld.com/brief_history.htm>,
    a member of an organization advocating Open Spaces Technology, a
    model for organizing meetings that's based around open
    participation. Here's how Owen describes the rule:

    “...Briefly stated, this law says that every individual has two
    feet, and must be prepared to use them. Responsibility for a
    successful outcome in any Open Space Event resides with exactly
    one person—each participant. Individuals can make a difference
    and must make a difference. If that is not true in a given
    situation, they, and they alone, must take responsibility to use
    their two feet, and move to a new place where they can make a
    difference.”

    
http://opensource.com/business/10/8/darwin-meets-dilbert-applying-law-two-feet-your-next-meeting


    Daniel


    On 9/26/14 6:49 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:

    Fantastic essay, Daniel. I'm a bit freaked out by Harrison
    talking about his "translator" after diving into T.S.Kuhn's book
    where he says paradigm shifts require "translators" because new
    and old paradigm holders live in different worlds, where even
    common terms may be fundamentally different.

    What I struggle to translate is the concept of coercion and
    authority from the vantage of "it's all open space". Can we
    really be coerced? How are we all already "opting in" to empower
    the "authorities"?

    Could we just be volunteering for the victim part of our stories?

    I have some thoughts about this, but I wonder what you would say
    to such a challenge to the relevance of "authority" in OST?

    Thanks,
    Harold

    Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language comes from a
    place I don’t know... which is to say that I probably wouldn’t
    say what you say in the way that you do (duh). BUT when I run my
    “translator” it comes out sounding pretty good! So... I can’t
    help with the questions you have raised. Actually I think you
    are doing pretty well on your own, and (hopefully) will incite
    others to a similarly riotous performance. Thanks!

    Harrison

    *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
    *Daniel Mezick via OSList
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space

    Greetings to All,

    For the past several years I have attended conferences of the
    Group Relations community, and encouraged others to do the same.
    I've studied their literature, and harvested some important
    learning as a result. One of the things I have come to
    understand a little bit better is the role of "authority
    dynamics" in self-organizing social systems.

    Link:
    www.akriceinstitute.org <http://www.akriceinstitute.org>

    Over the past several years I've been using Open Space with
    intent to improve the results of my work in helping companies
    implement Agile ideas in their organizations. We do an initial
    Open Space, then the folks get about 3 months to play with Agile
    (we carefully use the word "experimentation" with management,)
    then we do another Open Space after that, to inspect what just
    happened across the enterprise. The initial and subsequent Open
    Space events form a "safe" container or field in which the
    members can /learn/... as they explore how to /improve/ together
    by /experimenting/ with new practices, and see if they actually
    work. I call the process Open Agile Adoption.

    Link:
    OpenAgileAdoption.com

    This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take the air out
    of" most of the fear, most of the anxiety and most of the worry
    that is created. The key aspect is /consent/: absolutely no one
    is forced to do anything they are unwilling to do. No one is
    /coerced/ to /comply/. Everyone is instead respectfully
    /invited/ to help /write/ the story, and be a /character/ in the
    story...of the contemplated process change. Open Agile Adoption
    encourages a spirit of experimentation and play.

    The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom. Isn't it? In
    the OST community, we discuss and talk a lot about
    self-organization, self-management and self-governance. The
    Agile community also talks about these ideas a lot.

    So I have some questions. What is really going on during
    self-organization in a social system? What are the steps? What
    information is being sent and received? From whom, and by whom?
    Is the information about /authority/ important? How important?
    Can a social system self organize without regard to who has the
    right to do what work? /How do decisions that affect others get
    made in a self-organizing system?/

    Who decides about /who decides/? How important is the process of
    /authorization/ in a self-organizing system? Is
    self-organization in large part the process of dynamic
    authorization (and /de-authorization/) in real time?

    What /is /authorization? Can self-organization occur without the
    sending and receiving of authorization data by and between the
    members?

    Is Bruce Tuckman's forming/storming/performing/adjourning
    actually decomposing the /dynamics of authorization/ inside a
    social system?

    The essay below attempts to answer some of these difficult
    questions. I'd love your thoughts on it. Will you give it a look?


    Essay: Authority Distribution in Open Space
    http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/



    Kind Regards,
    Daniel

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