Barry -- I'm confused by your note. It would help me if you could be a bit more direct. I've been trying to read through your note to fully understand what you are saying. Are you questioning the relevance of the dialog that has been going on? Are you suggesting setting up another dialog? Another listserv? Is there another OS listserv happening that I don't know about? Are you referring to the dialog at the "Caucus" website that Harrison Owen referred to recetnly (which is also hard for me to follow and doesn't seem to be very active currently.)?
Kenoli
Just some random thoughts because I was a bit unsettled . . . This is probably "nothing" but then . . . I have heard several stories of Open Space events having to move from one physical space to another - successfully . . . Can this be done in virtual space? I guess the "standard response from Open Space gurus" would go something like: "If there is really sufficient passion for which the participants are willing to take responsibility, then the participants will do what it takes to continue the dialogue . . . else, it is over!" The "moving of Open Space" happens because the "old space" is no longer "safe space" for those participants exploring that particular theme . . . and so they pick up and move to a new area. What happens when folks have passion for the theme, but don't have the technological know-how to go to the new location? Does this simply mean their passion is not high enough - or they are lazy and the theme should just die? How easy is it to hit the "DELETE" button on unwanted incoming emails? Is this equivalent to "the law of two feet?" . . . or should the discussion participants themselves utilize the law of two feet to "make space" for other threads - Is there not enough space on this list serve for multiple threads? Is there a facilitator on the listserve? Are we ALL "holding the space?" Does the space "close" when someone arbitrarily imposes some limitations . . . or is this just "self-organization" at work? Who decides when it is over? I suggest it is over when the space is no longer safe to discuss "it." What happens to the people who have the passion but not the ability to move with the discussion to a different location (whether it be due to time and/or technology restraints)? . . . Hmmmm . . . I guess their passion just doesn't run deep enough . . . and they find other ponds to swim in. Whatever happens is the only that could . . . Ah well, I will admit to having been somewhat overwhelmed (and even bored at times) with the mass of messages concerning the 9/11 tragedy. There were days I simply deleted the messages without reading them . . . and now the location has changed to a place which is less convenient for me . . . I miss seeing all of the perspectives here, yet I am too lazy to go to the other place . . . my passion is not deep enough to cause me to take the time to log into another space (other than email) . . . and so if it is over for this space, it is over for me (and most probably for other people) . . . and my contributions to the discussion will happen tete-a-tete. With trepidation, I now hit the "send" button - not sure that I have said anything of consequence, but feeling somewhat better for having said something in what I construed to be a new void. Love and respect to ALL, Back to changing diapers, b Simply living the FourFold Way in Open Space . . . Barry Owen The Owen Group 5200 Maryland Way, Suite 101 Brentwood, TN 37027 615-568-2123 - Direct 615-263-4849 - Office/Voice Mail 615-263-4848 - Fax Real estate consulting web-site: http://homselrs.com/ Open Space Technology - Real Estate http://www.geocities.com/athens/oracle/9215 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
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