At 07:46 PM 10/18/01 +0100, Artur wrote:
Some notes on Winston and Harrison's comments: Maybe we are today in a situation "far from equilibrium" and that's why (maybe) we can apply Chaos theory to it and that is also the reason why one can say that we live today in a "transformative moment". But not all situations and moments are like that...
From where I sit here in the USA -- we are definitely off our rocker. call that Far From Equilibrium if you want, but I call it wild.
And, no, I don't think that all systems are trully open - some are severally constrained. I understand that the "informal system" is always working, and you gave in one of your books a very good example of how it works. But I claim that even the informal system can be severally constrained.
True. but what is also "true" is that the tighter the system, the more you can get away with. 'cause nobody suspects that anybody would dare. This is not about terrorism (though I guess it could be) -- but as a denizen of one of the largest "closed systems" -- the US Government for 20 years, I did what I thought then (and now) were wonderful and wild things (read GOOD) by playing in the realm of the Informal System. Never had a problem, because nobody could believe I would actually do such a thing. Harrison
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