John,

    I had one experience that a group insisted on having their own os
without any data interference. They said that as managers they are seldom
treated as "people" , always have an additional burden (and I very much
agree)...The creative solution we came up with was to have one additional OS
meeting to which a diagonal of the organization, 70 people who attended one
of the previous OS meetings on that subject (yet majority were managers for
decision making purposes) and that worked very  well. Like water in
connected pipes everything that happened before was present and they were
ready and empowered to take the decisions .
Hope this helps

all the best
Tova Averbuch

Tova Averbuch
34 Rabinovitz street
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Dicus <jdi...@ourfuture.com>
To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:58 PM
Subject: Question: Between Groups


> Hello everyone,
>
> Periodically, I work with an group that uses one-day OST "events" as a
> beginning point for other services that they provide to client
organizations.
>
> When the client organization is large, we offer multiple one-day Open
Space
> gatherings for the entire organization.  Participation is voluntary, and
> employees choose which of the two or three one-day events they wish to
attend.
>
> We make all outcomes available to all participants, as well as to the
> entire organization, via internet/intranet when the last session is
completed.
>
> We normally don't influence the second or third day's participants by
> letting them see the topics from previous days.  Although the word gets
> around on it's own to some degree.  The thinking is that we want each
group
> to come in with their own hopes and thoughts, beginning with a clean
sheet.
>  And as you might expect, each day has a life of it's own.
>
> Nothing is "broke," but I'm wondering.  Especially when you see what
> happens when one is fortunate enough to have additional days with the same
> group.  The organizations in question here, though, have operational
> continuity issues and size is often an issue.  So one-day events are what
> we're choosing to deal with.
>
> The questions are...
>
> -  Have you experienced sharing the topics/conversations with a
> second/third group, and what was the result (pros and cons)?
>
> -  What ways would you consider weaving the groups together,
progressively.
>  I'm thinking that there's a paradox in that sharing too much will put
> unwanted expectations on each successive group.  But I'm also thinking
> there's an opportunity being presented to let successive group go
> further/deeper into what's possible for their organization.
>
> I'm not reluctant to experiment on my own behalf because there's lots of
> opportunities to adjust in the future based on what happens.  But on the
> other hand, it may be the client's only opportunity (in the near term) to
> get some good things going for them
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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