What I took Ralph to mean is that, of course, the map is just a
representation of the territory and not the territory itself

but

MY map is MY representation of the territory and forms the basis of my
actions, whether or not my map actually conforms to the realities of the
territory!

~Alan Klein

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harrison Owen" <[email protected]>
> At 10:58 AM 12/18/2001 -0500, Ralph Copleman wrote:
> >I have usually found that both are true..
> >
> >The map is NOT the territory
> >
> >And the map IS the territory.
>
> OK Ralph -- I know you are a contrarian, and also a jokester  -- I am just
> not sure which one of your pathologies is operative here.

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