At 05:53 PM 12/30/2001 -0500, Ralph Copleman wrote:

(Well, we're two biased witnesses talking to each other...)  I'm sure you're
not the only one with claustrophobic reactions to various interventions.  I
know that I have experienced them and, no doubt, caused them, too.

It's not only the 18(?) so-called large group interventions I'm referring
to.  How about therapy or other one-to-one interventions?  In my experience,
these can thwart as well as free folks.  Small group processes face/offer
the same challenge.  But some of these (individual or group) techniques do
open new paths, offer break-through insights, and facilitate new levels of
cooperation.  And let's not forget meditation.

All kinds of issues face all kinds of people and systems.  We need to be
thoughtful in our approaches.  Of course, for my money, if you can't open a
little space for folks, the odds may be against you.

--
Ralph Copleman
609-895-1629

Whether we are talking one-to-one therapy or a large group intervention for
1500, I think my question, and therefore the "metric," might still be
valid. How much space do we have -- and how much can we create? I remember
spending 2 and 1/2 years on the couch (4 days a week) of a classical
Freudian analyst. And all I can tell you -- that Dude did create space. The
most he ever said was a mildly expressive grunt -- but it did open things
up. I found myself wondering what many of my clients seem to wonder -- why
was I paying this character $100 an hour for grunts? -- and Hell, I don't
even grunt.  But that which was purchased (I learned) was not "grunts" --
but space.  I needed it. I grew in it, and it was worth every penny. And
not incidentally, the experience created a whole mess of space in my wallet.

So back to the original -- How Much Space? Can you stand. Can you create.
Can the "client" tolerate? And choose your weapons accordingly. Question:
When you said, "And let's not forget meditation." did you really mean
mediation?

Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, MD 20854 USA
phone 301-365-2093
Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com
Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org
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