Thank you, Harrison.  We were talking about this very thing during yesterday's 
VOSonVOS Design Team telephone conference.  We were describing how much we 
wanted the facilitators' page - where we are holding space - to be comprised of 
pictures, poetry and perhaps audio - sensory stimulating pieces that bring the 
participant into the whole with feeling.  As we described these images, we 
realized that we were FEELING them as we spoke and that we felt much more in 
communion with each other and very much at peace with the process in a way we 
hadn't before.  

Blessings,
Toni Petrinovich
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Harrison Owen 
  To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu 
  Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 5:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Columbia OS


  At 05:03 PM 4/27/2002 +1000, denis wrote:

     I have not worked in a similiar situation since. However what I would
    have liked to try was 2 interpreters.  One to talk for me and one to listen
    for me. Hopefully that way I would have got all of the asides etc.

  On the subject of listening to "asides" -- I have a rather different take. A 
substantial number of the Spaces I open occur in situations where the language 
spoken is not my own. In the past 4 months, this has included Serbian, Hebrew, 
Arabic, Swedish and Beloxi (a strange tongue they speak in Mississippi). I find 
that missing out on the words forces me to a deeper level of communication -- 
that 95% done without words. My relationship to the group is mediated by such 
things as movement (dance) smell, gut feelings (intuition), taste, color to 
name a few. By missing out on all the good gossip, I find that I am much more 
attuned to the flavor of the whole group -- which I think is where my attention 
should be in order to be fully present to the whole body of folks. So what 
might seem like a disadvantage is, in my experience, a real plus. I have never 
felt that I missed anything essential, and it also seems to carry over into 
English speaking environments -- where it is all too easy to get trapped by the 
discussion and then move into the "expert, fix-it" role.

  Harrison  



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