this went only to martin. he apparently requires the same special attention as michael pannwitz! <grin> reply to all...
Michael Herman wrote: > marting and doug, > > i think some of these things martin is mentioning are good to test, but still > i think these other orthodoxies you mention, martin, are important only in as > much as they help people see/remember that ost works at a whole different > level of relationship within org. but as you say, as long as the potential is > allowed/remembered, any shape will do. > > also, about doug's initial comment, i wrote a description the other day of ost > in which i say that the opening of space in org (as facilitator or sponsor) is > fundamentally a leadership decision and commitment to be leader(s) of people > in motion. ost removes some of the structures and with that some of the > friction. so that movement is easier. and what the facilitator does is a lot > LESS because it takes a lot LESS. it's like being in outer space. a little > push will go a long way. also why the initial conditions are so important. > it's not so much, then, about the facilitator being in or out, but being VERY > careful, teaching others that they can make smaller movements that still have > great effects and outcomes. it's enough, for instance, to just ask the > question, we say, not having to bring the whole answer or solution. and the > more of the 'orthodoxies' of ost that we apply to a situation, the more > careful (apparently removed) we need to be, and can be, and the more easy it > is for those others present to see the power and possibility of deep easy at > work. > > this then seems the bottom line. how easy can we be? > > m > > Martin Leith wrote: > > > Douglas, > > > > Thank you for daring to challenge one of the orthodoxies of Open Space > > facilitation. > > > > Here's how I (currently) see it: > > > > Open Space Technology is a 'tool' of co-creation. > > > > Co-creation means, among other things, 'we're all in this together'. > > > > So I guess this means that the facilitator is an equal player in the > > co-creation process, not some external agent. > > > > Co-creation is not about delivering messages. Why? Because delivering > > messages is an aspect of the old world of command and control, the world of > > telling and selling. > > > > Maybe the facilitator stays out of the way unless feeling *deeply moved* to > > participate - unless her or his non-participation does a disservice to the > > group (for example, by witholding vital information or insights). > > > > Service or disservice ... who can say? Only us, right there in the moment. > > > > How about some more orthodoxy challenges? Here are a few for starters: > > > > * Participation must be voluntary > > > > * People start off sitting in a circle > > > > * The facilitator must walk the circle, and in a solemn manner > > > > * Always display the four principles and one law on the walls - oh, and be > > sure to include a few pictures of butterflies and bees, or the magic won't > > work > > > > * Post the session reports on the wall > > > > Thanks again Douglas. It's high time we challenged these basic assumptions. > > > > Martin > > > > Martin Leith, Now-to-New Catalyst > > 17 Bedford Street, Brighton BN2 1AN, United Kingdom > > Phone 01273 675322 (+44 1273 675322) Mobile 07808 773713 (+44 7808 773713) > > email [email protected] > > www.martinleith.com > > www.botai.org > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of [email protected], > > Visit: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > -- > > Michael Herman > 300 West North Avenue #1105 > Chicago IL 60610 > 312-280-7838 voice > 312-280-7837 fax > > http://www.michaelherman.com > ...an invitation. -- Michael Herman 300 West North Avenue #1105 Chicago IL 60610 312-280-7838 voice 312-280-7837 fax http://www.michaelherman.com ...an invitation. * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
