thanks florian

your poetry speaks  my  to conscoiusness and feeling

here i offer a few lines too

to know and to understand
to do the right thing and to let it all go
to be in the fire of learning
again and then again

to be in my being
and to do my being
is not so easy
and yet so simple
it makes the fish laugh

- toke



TO SIT WITH WATER
TO FEEL THE RHYTM
TO SEE THE FLOW

- THEN TO KNOW

- toke

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At 14:10 +0200 24/07/02, florian fischer wrote:
dear soulists and spiritors
in listening on your discussion I picked up some of your ideas
which came together in my mind as the following:
( unplugged,  and I don´t know how to measure that in euro-cent)



and
the fish is holding space
for the water which is watering

and
the wildebeest is holding space
for the hunters who are hunting

and
angels are holding space
for humans for to let them know to be human

and
humans are holding space
for to get aware that it´s human to be angelic

and
in the middle between
silence and eloquency

there may be a drawing
for to give space
to an unspeakable essence

which may let see
that holding space must naturally be
holding space for others

and
holding space for others gives an idea
about the otherhood of oneself

which
may come up as excitement
upon the endless emergence
of the mutual otherhood
as the common virtuality

and
the facilitator in holding space
never is separated from the group

but
he is other in doing another job
indeed totally invisible but totally present


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nur umwege fuehren zur loesung -
   only detours lead to a solution -
es gibt nur umwege -
   there is nothing but detours -
alle wege fuehren zu einer loesung
   every road leads to a solution -
es gibt nur eine loesung -
   there is only one solution -

jede loesung führt zu einer weiteren loesung -
   every solution leads to a following one -

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