Yes, I think it is the only way to think about it. As we need to go with what 
we have and that was just the 'practice' for them as they could not imagine 
that if started, it comes to a real work. but too little time for such a big 
topic.

thank you for your talking

I hope we shall come to a real Forum, and more time as we plan 1,5 hours 
plannary session, then the whole day of work, but for approx. 300 people (need 
to find a facility yet), and then the next day - if not convergence, that more 
detailization of some projects, they are speeking about uniting of some, but 
I'm not sure, that people will be happy with that. yes, some topics are 'close' 
but they have authors, and when united, ... nobody

so let's see, if we can proceed.

The openning process was shown on TV, education channel, but when windows - you 
can't see anything, so I don't know whethe it is good or not. The work in 
groups was OK, but our movements around - was auwful (we made it in turn with 
Marina - it is fun) hope, that it is not spoiling the energy.

in a week will be the closing session shown, and I hope it will be much better, 
as it will be 'darker'


best wishes

elena 

P.S.I love the method! 

We could not start it properly, as one of the new born organization brought 
champaign, and we could not stop the new president inviting people to have some 
'tea' at the beginning and they were shoing us our flip chart with "Be prepared 
to be surprised!"

and then we couldn't stop people working as our time was finishing and we need 
to make a closing session...
that is very Russian. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ethelyn & Harrison Owen 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Democracy and Open Space (in work) - long, sorry


  At 10:40 AM 9/5/2002 +0700, Elena Marchuk wrote:

    So yesterday we gathered 40 organizations, and the topic the organizers come
    with was: "Interaction of NPOs and local governments in building Civil
    Society"

    How do you think such a topic - a very general one - could be 'discussed' in
    the OST.
    Though I tryed while oppening to ask the question like: So, now we need to
    find out why do we need to interact and what is Civil Society then...

  I find that if you convert the statement to a questions, it all works better. 
So -- What are the issues and opportunities...???

  The fact that folks came up with a lot of stuff that seemed very general is 
no problem, and actually I thought some of it was very particular. They would 
go as deeply as they could. And should you find that there are some issues 
which are no where near "action" I would think about another Open Space but 
just on that issue. If they cared they will come. 

  Harrison 



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