Hi Elena: Try just going to http://www.tmn.com and following the links from there. If you need a user name, I think openspace is the one that Harrison set up. It's free to register there.
Cheers, Chris --- CHRIS CORRIGAN Consultation - Facilitation Open Space Technology Bowen Island, BC, Canada http://www.chriscorrigan.com [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elena > A. Marchuk > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Democracy and Open Space > > Hi Criss, > > I did try the address you mentioned, as the idea is looking interesting > for > me, but it did not loaded and asked my password. > Do I need any authorithation there? > How can I reach the material about 4N, if possible, please? > > Best wishes > > Elena > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Corrigan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:04 AM > Subject: Re: Democracy and Open Space > > > > We had a conversation earlier in the year about forms of convergence > and > > action planning that did not require voting. In February I tried out > > the 4N method that Michael Herman and I hammered out (Michael named > > it...he gets the credit for News Now Next Nuts - and he can have it!). > > It worked really well. The record of the conversation and the story > are > > on The Meta Network at > > > http://community.tmn.com/tmn/swebsock/0007715/0679001/CS41/viewitem.cml? > > 22+6+54+23+0+0+1+x#here > > > > Not voting is empowering. People see what work needs to be done and > > pick up the tasks. People move by choice to the work that holds the > > most meaning for them, and new structures emerge. I think voting > places > > predetermined boundaries about what needs to happen. As much as we can > > say that "every issues is still important" voting implies that some > > issues are more important than others, even if things are ranked > > strictly according to where people's energies are at. The only time I > > have found voting appropriate was at the end of a one day meeting, when > > my sponsor wanted things prioritized. At that time, we gave each > person > > five dots and asked them to rank the most important issues for the > > group. That was all. There was no follow up within the OST meeting on > > these issues, they simply ranked them and left them at that. With a > > clear understanding of what we were doing, no one felt slighted. But > in > > contexts where the voting then leads to groups to work out those > issues, > > I have found people generally miffed at the way that whole thing goes. > > > > Maybe it's me (Harrison might think so...he once described the aversion > > to voting as "Canadian.") > > > > Another thing that bugs me about voting is that it says "wasn't that > > Open Space thing interesting? Okay, let's get back to reality..." In > > other words, it doesn't model the new reality, but reinforces the old > > one. I have had people express exactly this disappointment to me. > They > > have said "Oh rats...we were really starting to get somewhere..." > > > > And this "getting somewhere..." Doesn't that echo John's notion of > > democracy as a journey? I don't think that democracy IS voting, nor do > > I think that voting in and of itself is democracy. To reduce one to > the > > other removes the role and responsibilities of the citizen to act and > > improve the system. Perhaps real democracy invites this action. > Voting > > is just a way to see what's popular. > > > > So OST is "democratic" if it invites folks to be citizens, encourages > > them to use their feet, and provides a way for outcomes to unfold > > without domination from powerful interests. > > > > Enough musing for now. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- > > CHRIS CORRIGAN > > Consultation - Facilitation > > Open Space Technology > > > > Bowen Island, BC, Canada > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com > > [email protected] > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of [email protected], > > Visit: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
