dear Michael, Wish you a wonderful morning! Very very interesting posting and a great learning for me. Weeks back when i raised about story type drafting for capturing and imortalisation of spirited dialogues (within linguistic framework), i never had dare to imagine for expressing/caturing the rainbow colour of our spirit through dance, visual and other processes. Very interesting ideas have flowed since then. If we go a little bit of three thousands year back of our indian philospopy, most of the indian scriputres like Vedas were remembered and passed over next generation just by listening and memorising - that is why other name of veda is shruti(Sanskrit word) - word still does posses have tremendous power to pass on. In India and certain part of pakistan, Urdu speaking people still loves to share "sher" - a small poem with two to few lines and carries wonderful meaning -it require unique taste bud to appreciate linguistic craftmanship. No No - I am not praising about capturing the spirit through only words - who will deny the expression of rainbow colour of our spirit. But rainbow is there in the sky only when the drizzling rain is over - never stays longer - how to capture it for others. It is wonderful everning here and time for dinner, Mr. Michael. With warm regards Malay India
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Herman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:13 PM Subject: Re: AW: The Oral - Visual lives next door > hi all... > > woke up this bright, cool sunny morning here in chicago thinking about this > oral, visual conversation thread... and remembering my friend who's just > starting to write a dissertation on taste, smell and touch... and the > personal/social implications of making those 'intimate' senses primary to the > 'distal' senses of seeing and hearing. his language is peppered with bites, > tastes, flavors, yums, yuks, smellies and other whiffs. > > it occurs to me that in this recent imagine chicago conference, we had the > computers and the wiki, but also painting for all, and drums and such, a day on > storytelling and place... and while we had fairly standard (but tasty) > box-sorts of lunches, we also had a gala benefit dinner with dancing on the > first of five nights together and finished on the last night with a big dinner > and cookout at the sponsor's home. > > i'm also noticing being in a bit of a lull in terms of getting things processed > around here after being gone for most of the last five weeks. was finding it > hard to hunker down and chew through the necessary informatino processing > post-travels and post-conference. while i've been eating healthy whole organic > sorts of foods as my habit, it seems that a couple of more 'processed' subway > (franchise restaurant) sandwiches seems to have helped kick me into gear. we > are what we eat? ...and so what if we could eat what we are, or what our work > together is? > > so what if we forget the computer room or move it over to make room for the > conference kitchen? the dance floor (not so uncommon) and other tasty, smelly, > touchy processing places? we do some of this already, of course. but what if > the evening meal *was* the proceedings and we all were able to take it fully > into our beings? would not the proceedings necessarily turn into becomings? > > and now i do believe it's time for breakfast. > > m > > > > Visuelle Protokolle wrote: > > > Bernd, Chris and all: > > > > Bernd, you touched me like so many others with your description of your > > work, of your tasks. and Chris, you have to give so many astonishing > > insights. you say: > > > > It seems to me anyway, that writing, > > >talking and sensing are all communication strategies, and while > > >certain cultural contexts will select some strategies over others, > > >all strategies are available to everyone > > > > > "there" .... is a message > > >that is transmitted orally, although the reminders are all visual > > >and kinesthetic: dances, masks, carvings, and so on. All of these > > >things "carry" the story with them. > > > > > > > > Low context cultures, in my opinion, tend to be less > > >comfortable with the limited information that sometimes comes out of > > >Open Space small groups, where people have been too engaged in the > > >process of conversation to write down much of what was said. ... reading > > the reports in no way helps to > > >explain ... why it was such a high ... > > > > When we get touched by descriptions of the life in oral/visual cultures, we > > can look at the strange qualities of these cultures like in a prehistoric > > museum and go home afterwards. go on living as usual, going to Open Space > > and writing texts as usual, with very limited information - and poor > > touching quality. > > > > Or we can realize, that the oral - visual type actually lives next door, or > > even lives in us. > > > > For me it was always hard to understand how such a brilliant thing like Open > > Space is normally documented in the most traditional and poor way, by > > writing texts. and even worse, because like Chris points out, Open Space has > > all the potential of engaging people. when it was "such a high", and then > > some poor guys have to stay and make their homework and write something, > > produce more of the same, texts. > > > > I talked to Harrison Owen about that some years ago in an Open Sapace at the > > lake of Starnberg in Bavaria, but seemed not to get his attention. > > > > We accompanied about ten Open Spaces and made visual protocols. mainly > > pictures, some words, no long texts. Everybody was happy. Sometimes people > > made their written reports as well, sometimes not. But what counted was the > > pictures. People loved to find their contributions as pictures. And were > > astonished to "get the whole picture" at the end (and even in brochure form > > a bit later), to really see what had happened in all the groups. We made the > > astonishing experience, that is was sufficient to visit every group just for > > about ten minutes to catch the story. we asked people to look critically, > > but seldomly were asked to correct or add something. once a consultant said: > > only by your pictures I understood what happened. I know that I am good, and > > would have brought in my view of the theme and would have gone home proudly. > > By your pictures I suddenly realized the quality of the contributions of the > > others, and how we enriched each other and together reached to a higher > > level! > > > > There we are! even in a low context culture we can reach experiences of > > inner satisfaction, joy, understanding, just by awakening the oral-visual, > > sometimes visional guy in us. it is easy, it is fun, it goes deep, it is > > sustainable. which method could gain more from this fact than Poen Space! > > > > I believe that the Open Space method simply was not fully developed yet. > > maybe that is a sacrilege, but once I found the oral (Open Space) visual > > (Visual Facilitaion) combination to work so well, to work inside of us, > > mostly all of us, why be satisfied with less? > > > > Reinhard > > > > VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE > > Kuchenmueller & Dr. Stifel > > > > Munich Germany > > > > Tel: +49-89-202 447 48 > > > > http://www.visuelle-protokolle.de > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of [email protected], > > Visit: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > -- > > Michael Herman > 300 West North Avenue #1105 > Chicago IL 60610 > 312-280-7838 voice > 312-280-7837 fax > > http://www.michaelherman.com > ...an invitation. > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > Announcing the single most important piece of news for business travellers this week - The Regent, Mumbai is now the Taj Lands End.Come, experience the legendary Taj warmth and hospitality in midtown Mumbai. http://www.tajhotels.com * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
