the more we relax our minds, the more we see the depth that's already always there. is your mind more relaxed as a participant than as a facilitator? might be the only difference.
"Douglas D. Germann, Sr." wrote: > Ralph-- > > You sure are tough on me! <grin> And I needed it. > > It is important to remember what you say that even shallowness can happen. > On the other hand, I have seen Michael Herman invite people to go deeply, > and they do. So that is what I want to explore, not just in this thread, > but in life. > > << You cannot know what people are capable of > > True, in specifics, but just about everybody I know is capable of going > more deeply than they habitually do. In that sense, nobody ever gets "deep > enough"--so that is not my hope. (Or at least I hope it is not <grin>). > > What would paying attention to depth look like? Well, it might look like > what Michael Herman says he pays attention to. Or it might be noticing the > we instead of the I or instead of the trying to remember the various things > I want or need to say next. I'm not sure. That's why I asked the question. > What would it look like to you? > > Well, I don't know that the people in the room "should" have been any > deeper--just that I would like to see as much connection and Spirit as > possible. How did I know some people went deep? At the final circle in the > evening news--we did a one word how do you feel circle, and we got words > like "connected" and "joy" and "overwhelmed." But we also got "educated" > from a couple people, and to me that seemed more surface. Often, this > circle is my barometer of such things. > > Is open space not a form of meditation by the facilitator, as you suggest? > Seems like it is, for some people, yes? > > << You can "communicate" all the spirit you want, but if folks are not > << interested in spirit (and who says they must be?), it'll go right past > << them. Look, open space is many, many things, but it's not a religion. > > Ralph, I agree with you 100%. > > OS is however a place where we are (or perhaps I should say I want to be) > opening space for Spirit to show up. Re-lig-ion binds, but Spirit is of the > wind, free. That is what I seek: to free the spirit of men and women to be > as large as they can be. If we stay in little places, doing the same little > things we did yesterday, then our Spirit has not been released. So, if you > were to ask me what going deeper means to me, it means this sort of > freeing, inviting, and (ironically) going higher. > > << > What is your practice? > << > << Beforehand, I think about the value of the group's questions and > missions > << to the world and find their connection to me. I call up the place > within > << me that enables me to support what they do or seek. Then I open the > << space and get out of there. > > Thanks, that is great! Could you give me an example of a group's questions > and their connection to you? This is helpful.... > > << Relax. The open space events you facilitate are about the people who > show > << up and what they're willing to do. > > Thank you, Ralph. Also what I needed to hear. > > Ralph, thank you for "taking" me deeper on this. <warm smile> > > :-Doug. Germann > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 300 West North Avenue #1105 Chicago IL 60610 USA phone: 312-280-7838 http://www.michaelherman.com http://www.globalchicago.net ...inviting organization into movement * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
