At 10:09 PM 6/11/2003 -0400, Birgitt wrote:
The group raised a number of questions that we hope we can do some learning from you about. 1. The next time, would you have had participants announce their topics or would you have left the announcing part out? What happened to the energy when this part took so long (about two hours?)?
The actual "announcements" took about 30 min. We had, in fact allowed 2 hours from the start until the beginning of the first session -- just to be safe. As it turned out, the group was a little slow in arrival (big party the night before) so we got started for real a little "late" -- which of course was the right time. And so it turned out that everything took place in the "standard 1 and 1/2 hours. I would never leave the announcements out -- for lots of reasons. 1) Hearing the topics is a natural "edit" -- if somebody says "my topic" I don't have to. 2) Announcing the topic is and act of commitment -- most important expression of passion AND responsibility. And yes -- it did seem to go on. . . it always does, I find. But it was truly awesome.
2. The next time, would you limit the number of topics as you did this time. Your agenda wall with its very clear organization for topics was interesting but it is my understanding that you planned for 160 topics but many more were generated and there was no planned way to deal with them. It didn't look like the agenda wall left any room for the "unplanned". And yet, maybe limiting the topics was necessary.
We did not limit the topics. We had guessed (or more exactly Michael and I guessed) that 150 would be the max. Prior to the gathering Michael and I placed informal bets (Beer for all team members bought by the loser) -- but both were off by a wide margin. So we all drank a lot of beer. As for more spaces -- just blew up more balloons. Seemed to work perfectly.
3. The next time, would you have used cushions on the floor as you did to accomodate the number of people. We thought that there was probably a lot of discomfort esp when we became aware of how long people had to be in their seats for the agenda building.
Given the space available -- there was no choice but cushions. We did have chairs around the edges for those who's age or egos prevented sitting on the floor. Personally i didn't hear any complaints, and for sure the cushions (along with the balloons and floating signs) contributed to the total atmosphere. So yes -- chairs would have been nice. But the cushions were brilliant (Michael's Idea).
5. Could one of you have facilitated this meeting on your own or did it really require the two of you to "open" and then "hold" the space. What was your reflection about it being so much male energy in the facilitation--two men opening the space instead of one male and one female? Did you feel that sharing the opening of the space was a positive effect on your own energy or did co-facilitating deflect some of your energy to your partner?
One person, speaking both English and German could easily have handled the situation. But doing it together (speaking just for myself) was a real treat and privilege. The Program said that I would do the opening, and Michael would translate. At the very beginning, I made it clear that was not the case. I said, "Michael will do his thing, I will do mine -- and with luck we will arrive at the same place." We did. When it comes to the male/female energy thing I have to say that it had occurred to me to invite a woman partner, and there would have been a number of wonderful candidates. I chose Michael for two reasons. First, I had absolute confidence in his ability to deal effectively with the difficult logistics and work effectively with the client. Not that others couldn't have -- but with Michael, there wasn't even a speck of worry. The second reason, and probably the major reason, was that Michael and I had worked together long enough and often enough so that I knew there would be an easy flow between us. Two people in a single dance. I called it a "duet" -- changing metaphors. But dance or song -- it did flow. And was there too much male energy? That is a question that somebody else will have to answer, but my feeling is, no. Male and female energy is something that all of us, regardless of gender, possess. Effective Open Space facilitation requires the subtle, conscious, and sensitive use of both. Some people can do this first time, no practice, just go. Personally I have found that I can "do" male energy quite well -- but I have to make a special intent to honor my feminine. It has been an interesting journey of 67 years, but I think I am making some progress. Perfect, no -- but progress.
6. What is the real advantage in a large OST meeting such as this one? What was accomplished that could be cited as tangible results? Would it have been better to break the large group into smaller ie:600 person simultaneous OST meetings? Would that have been better for the participants. We noted in the pictures that some of the breakout groups had hundreds of participants and we were imagining that it would not be very fulfilling---but Erich pointed out that likely these in fact were like classes continuing on with masters from the "constellation work" so they were not meant to be really interactive.
There is something truly awesome when you have the Whole System in the room. There is a richness and energy that you will not find in any other situation. At a practical level -- our experience in Wuerzburg demonstrated to me that given the space, numbers aren't an issue. I have tried dividing large groups in the same area -- and found that they all got back together again anyhow. Of course, we have also done simultaneous, multi-site OS -- but that was due to budget and travel constraints. And were it possible to do them again, I would have opted for a single site. The fact that the break out sessions got rather large does not relate to the total size of the group. I have worked with groups 1/4 the size (500) and had large (75) sessions. My learning is that whatever we learned about "Optimal Group Size" isn't worth much -- The real criteria in not numbers, but does it work? I have seen groups of 2 being totally dysfunctional and groups of 75+ just flying. And of course there is always the Law of Two Feet. If the group is too big (multiple issues) use 'em. Of course, there is a learning curve,. and in a one day OS, some folks are still caught in concrete. But they learn.
7. In what circumstances would you recommend such a large OST meeting and what could the client expect to achieve?
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