Michael, thank you for assisting me in my edits on www.openspaceworld.com Your generosity with that site and with your time is a wonderful gift and I thank you. I spent several hours today going over the materials, imagining what could be added, and also thinking that it would be so good if all content rich conversations on this list were on that site in the way that you have pulled a few tidbits from the list. In some ways, active participation on that site could replace this OS List and the wisdom shared would be easily accessible to all newcomers to OST.
I was excited to see a spot for "research" and there is a good beginning there but I know there are so many more papers that have been done. We truly have had a lack of a space to pull the research together and I very much hope that you all will go into your files and contribute any and all bits of research about OST and its uses. Blessings to you and to all with whom you make Genuine Contact, Birgitt Birgitt Williams of Dalar International Consultancy http://www.dalarinternational.com <http://www.dalarinternational.com/> Mentoring for Organizational Effectiveness view the calendar for upcoming training at http://www.openspacetechnology.com/training.html <http://www.openspacetechnology.com/training.html> We invite you to join the list serve at http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/genuinecontact Mailing address: Po Box 19373, Raleigh, North Carolina, USA 27619 Raleigh, North Carolina USA Phone: 919-522-7750 Fax: 919-870-6599 "I believe that Spirit matters and people are precious. I know that organizations incorporating these values have exciting, tangible results including wealth, prosperity, and abundance. Daily, these organizations attend to their health and balance. Participating in the Genuine Contact program takes you on a learning journey of HOW to achieve the healthy and balanced organization (the conscious Open Space Organization).” Birgitt Williams, Dalar International Consultancy -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Michael Herman Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: everything i know about ost... one more thought for today... as more and more of the http://www.openspaceworld.org wiki website becomes open and editable, i thought this might be interesting. it comes from the MeatballWiki (http://www.usemod.com), which is a wiki website for programmers and others interested in feeding the use of wiki. you'll see that some of what they are saying here could easily weather a little search-and-replace, plugging in OST for wiki... ---- Why use a wiki, when anyone can change or delete anything there? What's to prevent someone from going berserk and wiping the whole site, or secretly changing the meaning of what people say, or clogging everything up with spam? Most community web sites rely on technology to restrict the actions of community members. Elaborate schemes have been designed to moderate postings (such as SlashDot <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SlashDot> and KuroShin <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?KuroShin>) or to establish a trust metric for community members to rate each other (such as AdvoGato <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?AdvoGato>). There are several problems with this: * Only one person can generally edit what they have already said, regardless of how bad a mistake they have made. * Duplicate comments can't be pared down and merged together. * Moderation and trust metrics create an atmosphere of distrust by implying that visitors must first earn the trust of the community. * It frequently becomes a game to get around technical limitations. For every limitation, there is usually a way around it. Wikis work better because they rely on the community, rather than technology, to police itself. If someone comes along and deletes text or posts spam, someone else can just as easily fix the problem. Since an open environment encourages participation and a strong sense of community, the ratio of fixers to breakers tends to be very high, so the wiki stays stable. There are technological protections, too -- they're just less obtrusive than having to "log in" or "rate" something. Most wikis store old versions of each page for at least a short period of time, allowing damage to be easily recovered. Many wikis provide a means to limit how quickly someone may edit a large number of pages. Most wikis also provide a means to lock out particularly abusive visitors without disturbing other visitors. UseModWiki <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?UseModWiki>, the software running MeatballWiki <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki>, provides all of these features. In short, wikis work because of the community. ---- -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 300 West North Avenue #1105 Chicago IL 60610 USA (312) 280-7838 http://www.michaelherman.com - consulting & publications http://www.globalchicago.net - laboratory & playground http://www.openspaceworld.org - worldwide open space ...inviting organization into movement * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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