Romy Shovelton surfaced and had the following to contribute to Avner. I
guess she is not curretnly on the LIST -- so I will pass it on.

ho
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:12:22 -0400
From: Romy Shovelton <[email protected]>
Subject: Master Planning & opening space
Sender: Romy Shovelton <[email protected]>
To: Avner Haramati <[email protected]>, Harrison Owen
<[email protected]>,
   John Thompson <[email protected]>

Avner


Thanks to the generosity of Harrison (as always), he has woken me up to
a hugely important issue that you posted on the OSLIST, despite my being
virtually invisible there these days.

Firstly, I am in awe every time I hear of the work you are doing. What a
gift to Israel and our world.

So... needless to say, I would be honoured to see if there is anything I
can add or support.

As you might imagine, most of my own thinking would chime 100% with that
of Harrison. And....  I have a couple of other thoughts.

1) I agree that an important primary focus will be on mentoring the
planners & politicians, to get them to a place where they see the real
value of the direction you are taking in engaging the people - as Harrison
says, so that they see how genuinely aligning with the desires of the people
(rather than doing so in theory only) GIVES them extraordinary power,rather
than taking it away.

What I might add, is that I believe you can move to participatory democracy
in stages. It is true that, in many ways, when the people have tasted Open
Space,
you can't put the 'genie back in the bottle': they have a sense of the
effectiveness
of running their own show, and will not easily go back to 'business as usual'.
However.... just as Open Space has a clear and strong framework (within
which is the freedom to create our world together),it is almost always
helpful to
be very clear on 'the givens' in any situation: these form part of the
framework.

So...you might say that a 'given' is that, in the current democratic and
legal
context, the planners and politicians have certain responsibilities for
taking
certain decisions. For the time being, they can retain those
responsibilities -
using the participation and dialogue with the people as the best possible
way of
making the best possible decisions ie.deciding with the people... and NOT
loosing
power, rather building it.

I agree that ultimately and ideally we will move to a situation where
decisions
are being taken through a process of hugely broader engagement of the
people. And..
even in that situation there are likely to be groups of people, and some
individuals,
who are asked to work on behalf of the people (eg. the teams who have just
been
working to produce some of the five-year-plan detail.). In a way we are
perhaps
grooming the P&P to work in a way that democracy was originally intended
to work?

So.. in short, I believe it's possible to work with the planners &
politicians (P&P)
without frightening them! In this way to bring them along into genuine
participation
with the people (as Harrison has said, in a lot fewer words!).

2) In addition to mentoring the P&P, Harrison is right that I have some
experience of
involving them in working directly with the people to draw up and
implement plans.
Working with John Thompson and his colleagues (www.jtp.co.uk), we use
community
architects, planners & urban designers to help 'the people' and the
planners &
politicians to take community desires to the next stage - to literaly
visualise
what the physical and social space could be like. The result is very often a
Master Plan. Working groups are often formed, and these can also benefit
from the
expert input of community planners etc. These are people that can speak
the language
of the P&P, while almost translating the will of the people.

I have just returned from two such pieces of work in Yorkshire in England.
In one,
the main event, which pulled things together and effectively launched the
implementation stage, included some significant transformation activities, to
signal the change eg. closing the main street completely and building a
(temporary)
dry-stone wall down the centre - reclaiming local skills and acting as a
seat for
great local entertainment in the evening.

btw John Thompson has personally worked in many contexts with significant
conflit. I
will copy him on this note, to see if he has worked in Israel? You may
well have
local 'experts' who play a similar role. If not perhaps John might be able
to help?

3)the other thing, which I'm sure you will have given the P&P to
understand, is that
using Open Space (and appropriate related work)will not only support them
in their
power and popularity, it will also be MUCH more effective and streamlined
in creating
the needed output eg. Master Plan and its implementation. Having the
people on board
at the start is quicker and cheaper than lengthy objections and
obstruction later.

4) btw on the question of elections, I'm sure your aim will be to involve
those of
all parties and 'sides'. And they will be advised to show genuine interest
and desire
for dialogue too. Of course what you don't want is them using your
gatherings as a
political platform: they would be invited to join in like everyone else.
Perhaps
you have a more specific concern here?

So... Avner please forgive me for probably stating the obvious.... At
least maybe
I'm endorsing your own thinking (as well as that of Harrison)?!

In summary, it would be wonderful to support you in your work. Please do let
me know if there is anything at all that I can do.

btw it was also such an honour to be invited to assist with /facilitate
the work
in Rome, with representatives from Israeli, Palestinian and Italian
universities.
As you will know, the intended event at the end of April was postponed:I
am planning
to drop an email to Sharon Rosen and Daniel Kropf to see what news there is.
While so far, Sharon and I have only 'met' by  telephone, it was wonderful
to spend
a brief time with Daniel when he was in London at the end of April/early May.

With very best wishes Avner

Romy

-------------Forwarded Message-----------------

From:   Harrison Owen, INTERNET:[email protected]
To:     Romy Shovelton, romys

Date:   31/07/03 12:05 PM

RE:     Some help?


Haven't seen you on the OSLIST recently -- and presume you are alive and
well. Avner Haramati (Israel) put up a note, and I thought some of your
experience might be helpful. He said: --

Dear colleagues

9 months ago we opened (holded) a space in a Regional Council that includes
25 villages and Kibutzim ( corporate villages). They decided to build a 5
years strategic plan for the region together with the inhabitants. 11 teams
worked on the issues that stemmed from the Open Space and last friday 10
teams that included inhabitants (130 of them) and civil servants presented
their final suggestions in an open event/market to the public and guests
and were acknowledged as the official guidelines of the strategic plan. The
teams decided that they want to continue. The issue of the missing team was
as Harrison calls it "clear as mud" and was publicly declared by the Head
of the Council as the next focal point.
The event and all the process was declared by the Inhabitants and the
Academic and Govenmental guests as the first manifestation of real
participatory democracy that they have experienced and they were thrilled.
One of the inhabitants shared her understandind of the process: " We were
excited by the 4 principals but I would like to add to the 4th: It ends
when it ends but then it starts again". Or as Tova said " After 9 months
the baby was born but now all the work of raising him up starts" It seems
that they are getting addicted to this, and our role along the way is just
slightly to remind them of the tune (in their words).

And the question:
We (with Tova) are in a process of using OS in the context of inhabitants
participation in building a "Master- Plan" for a small city.  We would be
very thankful to hear and learn about your experience in this kind of work,
especially on the allignment with the city planners and the planning
stages, and how coming elections effects it?

Thank you

Avner Haramati
Jerusalem

I answered: --

I think Romy Shovelton has done some work in this area -- she is sometime
lurker on the list -- but just to get her attention, I will forward this to
her. As far as your question goes -- You have surely asked the tough one. I
find that both city planners and politicians are (in general) adverse to
Open Space. The bottom line is control. They think they should have it
(control), Open Space makes it clear that nobody really does -- and so the
problem. While there are undoubtedly ways to integrate Open Space events
into the whole process (At the beginning to set the stage, in the middle
for course corrections and working the "clear as mud issues", and at the
end -- or continuing -- for implementation) I find that the critical thing
it to seek the active, continuing, participatory involvement of planners
and politicians.  Things go badly astray when planners and pols consider
the Open Space to be an exercise of the people which they may observe, and
from which they may receive recommendations -- the old "senior management"
model. Pulling this one off is a major task, and usually involves something
like a "soul change" for the P & Ps. Indeed for some of them it requires
that the world as they have seen it be turned upside down. All of a sudden
the people are "in charge" and the task of the planners and politicians
becomes one of working out the technical details -- a most important task
-- but definitely secondary. This is called democracy. From the sounds of
things (your story) you are off to a good start. My suggestion would be to
spend a lot of time with the P & P in mentoring relationship, helping them
to understand to genuine power of aligning their efforts with the desires
of the people. As Gandhi was purported to have said -- help them to find
out which way the parade is going and clear the route and manage the
traffic. Actually, Gandhi didn't say that exactly, but I think he could have.

Harrison


Hope all goes well with you. I am in Maine, enjoying the summer. If you
want to respond to Avner directly < [email protected] > will do it. And
it would be great to see you on the list.

ho

Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, MD 20854 USA
phone 301-365-2093
Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com
Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org
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