Dear Harrison, thank you for your reply. I will forward it to Paul. I hope this gives him some hope. With love - Catherine
Catherine Pfaehler Kellersriedweg 8 CH - 2503 Biel T/F/B ++41 - (0)32 - 365 68 41 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]]Im Auftrag von Harrison Owen Gesendet: Montag, 26. Januar 2004 00:38 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: An opportunity for Civil Conversation Catherine it is true that our major networks would love to think that they control the news. And our President (The Shrub) would love to think that he controls the networks. And unfortunately (or very fortunately as I would think) both are profoundly in error. The networks are losing market share the truth of the matter is that a large number of Americans are on Cable (I am not) where there are more channels than you could ever flip to. True, a substantial portion cover such exciting topics as How to Have a Better Sex life but there is more. Add in the fact that we are in truth a wired nation and it becomes clear that the possibility of controlling the flow of information in the USA is as possible as it was for the Rulers of China during the Tienamen (sp?) Square situation of several years ago. Nothing would have pleased those folks more than to closed down communication with the outside world. And they would have done it if they could but had they done it (cut the phone lines) they could not get the economic data they needed. I remember sitting in my basement with several young Chinese Students during that time, who wanted to know what was happening, and support their fellows. I happened to have a number of phone lines, faxes, and InterNet connections. And I can tell you China was a sieve. I couldnt prove it, but I honestly think that I knew more (reading over peoples shoulders) about what was going on in China than the Intelligence folks. Anyhow, Free Speech, and the free flow of information is alive and well in the USA. In a word we got lots of Open Space. Now that does not mean that we have been using it well, but actually we have gotten along pretty good for several hundred years. Major excesses to be sure. Total idiocy absolutely! But in the sloppy way of Democracy we muddle through. So far at least. We just have to keep the Space open. Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org <http://www.openspaceworld.org> Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Catherine Pfaehler Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: AW: An opportunity for Civil Conversation Chris indeed, Americas media seem to be owned by only 5 corporations, all of which have sponsored the current presidents campaign. Freedom of speech may well be something which does not exist any longer in your country, as a well-informed friend (named Paul) tells me. Sad. He states that unless you get your informations through the web or speak foreign languages, as an American, you are no longer informed objectively. With love and compassion - Catherine Catherine Pfaehler Kellersriedweg 8 CH - 2503 Biel T/F/B ++41 - (0)32 - 365 68 41 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]]Im Auftrag von Chris Macrae Gesendet: Samstag, 24. Januar 2004 22:49 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: An opportunity for Civil Conversation I'm always a bit scared (beyond my depth) about radical democracy but I did feel pretty angry about this story- if anyone feels I've misworded it, I'd a ppreciate editing advice- on the other hand if you feel like voting on whether CBS merits a future if the circumstances portrayed by moveon.org are correct, then please do vote Chris Macrae http://www.beyond-branding.com/blog/blogger.html SATURDAY, JANUARY 24, 2004 why you may never see the greatest ad ever made... ... the eye-catching opening second: ten-year olds working in a steelworks cut several times to other big industry factory lines peopled by kids no words just ominous sounding music for 20 seconds then silence and 10 seconds for the caption : who else did you think would be paying back America's debt? ----------------------------------------------------------------- If not the world's biggest conversation, I would have thought this should be one of America's biggest. But apparently CBS won't screen it even though American people have collected to pay the money their superbowl rate card demands. Unless there is an explanation that's currently alluding my grey cells, I conclude CBS and parent viacom don't believe in freedom of speech A few years ago the idea that the public could rate a global empire the size of Andersen as too untrustworthy to be worth having around seemed unlikely. >From all our research at Beyond-Branding, it seems time to rip down a big networked media company. Perhaps CBS is the goat that needs to be sacrificed; its not this company's first offence against public decency as the documentary on who tried to block freedom of speech in exposing how much tobacco companies new about addiction to deadly habits showed. You can vote for the future of CBS here. http://www.fastcompany.com/poll/?x=1127 -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen Sent: 11 December 2003 16:16 To: [email protected] Subject: An opportunity for Civil Conversation Folks - Up for a little radical Democracy??? * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
