yes, masud, i understand. this is the last part that i wrote about...
as for whether the vulnerable are even present... in public ost
scenarios... it's up to conveners to make whatever invitation will
make it possible for poeple to attend. here too, there can be limits
imposed by those in power... but we do what we can... and then we do a
little more... and more... always inviting as much and as many into
the circle as we can.
notice too, that _anyone_ can make an invitation, as well, and gather
the people they know who care about something, talk about it and then go
start doing. in the end, all of the power is in all of the people.
also _no_ circle (even apparently very large, powerful, exclusive ones)
will last forever. just yesterday i was blogging
http://www.globalchicago.net/weblog about the possibility of states
seceding from the US and the federal system here dissolving. the
independence movement in the state of Vermont is 15 years old and has
some impressive names endorsing the plans there.
mh
Masud Sheikh wrote:
My question is a little different. The vulnerability does not have to
do with the 'effectiveness of the circle', once it is formed. The
vulnerability has to do with becoming 'part of the circle' when it is
being formed.
A very small part may have to do with the effectiveness of the circle,
the MUCH LARGER part has to do with the process of circle formation,
i.e. who has the visibility to be invited into the circle?
In terms of markets, who gets to play in the market?
Masud Sheikh
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important, i think, as makers of openspace markets, to notice that it's
not the markets the do in the vulnerable... it's the big guys, who are
usually big because of some special privileges conferred by government
powers. in meeting terms, it's not the keynote speaker who really
dominates the meeting, but the control structure that invites and
introduces him/her, for instance.
in open space we have two helpful dynamics at work. first, nobody is
being granted special privileges or airtime in the meeting. so nobody
is bigger than the 'vulnerable'. i like to point out in conversations
about ost, that the circle does not make people equal. people are all
different. but it does give them equal access to the flow of info... to
announce, to post, to read and to publish in the proceedings... and the
second dynamic... everybody has an equal job: learn and contribute as
much as you can. so everyone is a leader and anyone nearby is charged
with helping someone who falls behind in some vulnerability.
as for whether the vulnerable are even present... in public ost
scenarios... it's up to conveners to make whatever invitation will make
it possible for poeple to attend. here too, there can be limits imposed
by those in power... but we do what we can... and then we do a little
more... and more... always inviting as much and as many into the circle
as we can.
my two cents.
would love to hear john and fremy's two sense from haiti about now. or
others.
m
Masud Sheikh wrote:
I have been thinking of the philosophy of Open Space and 'markets'. In
'markets', the 'vulnerable' get left out, unless community leaders
(which could mean different levels of government, or informal leaders)
play a part.
As there seem to be no 'community leaders' in open space, what happens
to the vulnerable, many of whom would stay out of the 'space'?
Masud Sheikh
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