You do make it sound as if open spaces are some rare event- around London they are increasingly held almost every week if not more often - largely because Young people movements seem to find such open meetings as natural as water, at least when linked by a few dedicated pioneers like those who have formed WTF and www.udoo.org have put in what has for them been years of continuous effort;
why not start doing that in your area and by all mean share action projects with London and elsewhere? If we just published stuff ideas by net , in practice there are would surely be both contextual conflicts as well as transferable resolutions; and anyhow unless the culture of the local people is readied to adopt open , I think a large part of the societal actionability wont evolve anyhow So I beg to differ, London and I expect various other places are making a very open demonstration and offer... It also turns out that getting involved in hosting meetings is the way to get really deeply socially networked, at least that's what my blog tells me http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=blog&op=view&uid=2850 Having said the above; we'd like to be truly open at collaborating - email is good to ask Londoners questions if there's something that looks useful but is so far poorly documented. The more you try to change -something l,ike www.bethechange.org.uk didnt exist 3 months ago and is now billed as a multi-country annual large event as well meetings (again around London where its hosting started) the more time starved it seems one gets so please go gently with some of these folk who are already working 25 hour days with our real and virtual lives Chris macrae, [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucas Gonzalez Sent: 06 June 2004 15:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: AW: "Power to the people" or/and "showing people, what they had said" (LONG!) I can only bring my small frustration to this issue: there have been OS gatherings in London (http://www.wtfcon.org) which I couldn't attend as I live some 3 thousand miles away. I know we all have to negotiate with reality, but to me the invitation wasn't all that "open". Did the internet-experienced, fast-typist people write summaries which would be the starting point for those of us outside the circle? Not much, really. Would I have wanted their restaurant napkin digitized and placed on the 'net? Sure I would. Anything better than this distance, if you ask me! Maybe this is a bit like open source in computers: volunteers (those with passion and responsibility) do what they like (and so they should), but someone might want to "pay" for "someone" doing what nobody likes doing, just like IBM pays for specific tasks in Linux ... hang on, documentation is also the boring part of coding a computer program!!! Maybe those of us who live far away should be able to subscribe paying a small amount of cash - to pay for some note-takers. It would be a non-compulsory, possibly nice, addition to the core openspace itself. A welcome one for the distanced. *If* it doesn't hurt the process - which is something for the experts (=those with experience) here to say. I *imagine* open space can swallow anything you throw at it, as long as it doesn't close the space down. I mean, people always bring in their own previous "everything": languages, concepts, experience, passions, personality, and skills. If some in the groups have previously learned to draw, to do lateral thinking, to play drama, to sing, whatever - they may (or may not) use that. So if someone opens the possibility of learning to draw before an OS event, then maybe some of the participants will take that learning. Is there a HOW-TO somewhere? Again, only my imagination at work here. Awaiting your comments. And, as usual, a big thank you. Lucas __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6 MB, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.es * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
