I look forward to the follow-on. I guess if people want to be miserable they can certainly do it. Question: Do "THEY"call this Open Space?
ho ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris macrae" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 2:24 AM Subject: Re: the dark side of circle practices > For example, imagine twenty people spend two day together in a retreat > and its intent is to sustain and maximise communal intelligence around > an invitation that sets up a huge change area. Such a retreat often > rotates between a big circle (with taking stick and timeout clangers) > and breakout groups, but the hosts/directors of the 2 day's format > thereby: > > --miss opportunities to create markets for breakouts > > --Make the main circle time almost impossible culturally to use 2 feet > from without upsetting everyone's belief in we are communal/collective > > The process starts erring to absolute democracy of everyone must have > equal time contributions to speak at each phase (to the extent that > energy gets lost if this doesn't happen); yet the truth might be that > there are certain deep experiences in the room which at stages during > the 2 days either need to be outed in direct conversation or written up > and circulated so that everyone has access to the > experienced/conflicting view before they leave the 2 days. In other > word's the circle's communal harmony only permits it to pass through one > type of conflicts ; in fact it can co-creates such deep love of nice > behaviours to each other that it misses the biggest spiral out above our > communal thinking's common denominator > > I'm in a rush today (to catch a plane). If this doesn't clarify a > nagging problem I have about how an increasing fashion for circles in > big change arenas without having a deeply experienced open space > facilitator there, forgive me if I have a second bite in a few days > > Chris macrae > > > -----Original Message----- > From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Harrison Owen > Sent: 08 July 2004 21:45 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: the dark side of circle practices > > I guess I am in the darkside of the darkside. What is/are circle > practices -- in the West or anywhere else???? > > Harrison > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "chris macrae" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:57 PM > Subject: the dark side of circle practices > > > > From some recent experiences, I have realised that it would be jolly > > useful to have some open space guidelines for circle practitioners in > > the west who never quite get to open space but also believe in the > > 'democracy' of speak when you have the talking stick, and gong when > the > > group needs a timeout > > > > The strength and weakness of circle culture (divorced from other rules > > of open space) is that it takes everyone's equal right to chat about a > > context to democratic extremes. I realise that this is useful where > the > > eldest are the most confused; but its not always useful in the case > > where the youngest are the least systemicly connected either in their > > own experiences or in the stories they are able to tell representing a > > diversity of views (beyond that the person actually holds) > > > > Enough said to start a conversation, or do I need to amplify? > > > > Cheers, chris macrae > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of [email protected]: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
