Oh if only we could open enough space to get rid of extremities, of left and right I see no difference , that darn spectrum is so 20th Century: most of us are just people - in contrast, the extremist is closed, command and control driven and someone who cheats all other people from enjoying every space and chance to commune respect, imo chris macrae -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen Sent: 29 July 2004 14:03 To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Renewing the American Experiment
I guess I am with you BJ. I haven't finished the article -- but it does seem to me that Korten opens up some interesting spaces -- no matter what you may think of the view. And certainly if we can go wandering off into odd metaphysical speculaltion about consciousness and such, contemplating some of the issues that Korten describes can't be all that bad -- after all this is Open Space. Harrison ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ Peters" <b...@cox.net> To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 1:12 AM Subject: Re: Renewing the American Experiment Paul-- I respect your opinion that this is not the forum for discussing Korten's article, and I obviously did not agree with that stance.. I sent the article to the list because I believe that open space is exactly a place to discuss ways to reduce the polarization existing on the planet today. And many of the questions Korten poses would make wonderfully connecting OST themes. I want so very much for people in this country and the world to find ways of talking to one another in connecting ways about their visions for the future, regardless of political party or progressive/conservative labels. I want to be able to do that myself. When I read something that seems to cross party lines in terms of frame, I am moved to share that in hopes that this might be a way to cross what seems at times like an enormous chasm. I regret if you or anyone else is offended by my passion and personal quest. Be Peace --BJ On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 07:34 PM, everett...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/28/04 4:58:18 PM, b...@cox.net writes: > > > > I urge all of you to read his lengthy piece thoughtfully at the website > above. I invite you to think about and plan ways we can, individually > and collectively, create and share different stories that might renew > the American Experiment. And I'd love to hear your thoughts on this > list. > > Be Peace --BJ > > > > Dear BJ: > > I am in agreement that Korten's writing is powerful and people who > wish to should read it (I read much of the website, took several > hours). I strongly differ with you that this OS List should be used > as a forum for the discussion of Korten's viewpoints or basic > thesis---that the future of the United States has been hijacked by a > band of elitists (right wing at that, although he tries to make the > case that it is elitists in general who are against those advancing > the American Experiment, yet he doesn't mention left wing extremists) > and we true democrats need to take it back. That will provoke some > strong differences about which we can do little on this board and is a > serious diversion from our discussions herein. I believe that we > should let those who are interested (I am) go to his website and join > in the various discussions there while keeping this site focussed on > Open Space and its advancement in effectiveness and understanding. > Certainly the emerging discussion around OS as a "half-way" technology > should be challenging enough to keep us very busy developing a more > inclusive story that includes strong(er) outcomes. > > Sincerely, > > Paul Everett > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist