Dear Alexander,
I would also very much like to have pictures from GOA, I miss, where can I look 
for them?
best wishes
elena
novosibirsk
russia

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gabriela Ender 
  To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:31 PM
  Subject: Re: My reflections on the Goa OSonOS (longish)


  Dear Alexander,

  thank you so much for your beautiful pictures!

  I was unfortunatley not in Goa, but last year I was also in Denmark. The 
organizers of OSonOS 2003 did also a great job - the location was beautiful - 
the bufett was perfect. I was so happy to meet "old and new" wonderful 
colleagues. But at the same time I felt, that I missed my own passion to 
participate in the sessions. I thought "Oh, whats that?" ... "why do I feel 
so?". Beside two or three good sessions I followed my two feets and enjoyed 
more, very good one-to-one talks. But my "open space´ler heart" was not really 
happy and I asked my self "why?".

  Later back home, it came into my mind, that I missed something like an 
exciting "main theme". Of course it is an OST on OST. But from my personal 
point of view I would prefer to have each year a new "powerful question" on top 
of >OSonOS<. This title should give enough space for diversity, but could give  
an orientation and direction for new and deep conversations (space for sharing 
deep experiences, for telling stories, and for creativity). I think it would 
not minimize the community aspect - I guess, it would enrich the community 
feeling at such OSonOS AND the further development of OST.

  My desire would be, that OSonOS would go more in such direction, instead of 
having additional staff.

  Warm regards from Berlin,
  Gabriela

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Alexander Kjerulf 
    To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu 
    Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:34 AM
    Subject: My reflections on the Goa OSonOS (longish)


    Hi

    I just got back from India, and here are my reflections on this years
    OSonOS.

    First of all there were lots of things I enjoyed about the OSonOS:

        * I met some wonderful people, some for the first time; some again
        * The place was absolutely wonderful - See for yourself, I posted
          some pictures here: http://www.positivesharing.com/Goa
        * I had many great and inspiring conversations outside of the sessions
        * And best of all, we (the Happy at Work Project) may now have a
          shot at creating the Happy at Work Project, India

    BUT :-)

    Those of you who were there know that I was frustrated with the
    conference itself. This was also true at last years event in Denmark
    (the first OSonOS I attended) but at that time I chose not to express it.

    During the evening news on the second day, I presented my observations
    on what frustrated me. I realize of course that these are only my
    experiences. Other people may have (and indeed did have) totally
    different experiences. Anyway, here's what frustrated me at the OSonOS:
    *Not much listening.* People seemed more eager to speak than to listen.
    *Not much depth.* Few conversations achieved any real depth, since many
    comments didn't seem to build on what was said earlier in the conversation.
    *Too large groups.* Many (most?) groups had 10 - 20 people in them,
    which of course makes deep conversation and listening more difficult.
    For my taste, I prefer groups with at most 8 people.
    *Too much weird stuff.* Every day of the OSonOS opened with singing,
    chanting, laughter exercises and other "weird stuff" :-) . I have
    nothing against that in itself (and indeed use some of it once in a
    while), but it didn't really add to my experience.
    *Experienced OS'ers don't seem open to input*. The experienced OS people
    in the crowd were wonderfully willing to share their experiences, but
    seemed less willing to listen to new ideas.
    *Evening circle takes too long*. The evening circle went on for a long
    time - too long in my opinion.

    I say this without any intention of blame or indictment. Please also
    remember that this kind of thing always looks worse in worse in writing.
    And as I said at the conference, I only say this, because I think the OS
    community can deal with it, and should be given a chance to do so -
    rather than just me dealing with it on my own by not coming to any more
    OSonOS'es.

    The paradox here is, that all the conversations I had outside of the
    sessions really made my coming there worthwhile, so my time there was
    certainly not wasted. It's just that I KNOW that OS conversations can be
    so much more than what I saw at both this and last years OSonOS'es.

    Now, I'm not going to throw something like this out there, without also
    thinking about what we can do about it, and so we did a session on that
    on the third day. We saw some ideas brewing as to what we could do to
    improve the OSonOS, while at the same time maintaining (and maybe even
    strengthening) all the good things the OSonOS does for the OS community
    already. This is not about revolution, it's about taking an appreciative
    approach to what already works in the OSonOS, and how we can build on that.

    But before we start that, there should be some sort of buy-in from the
    OS community. If the prevailing mood is, that "the OSonOS is fine, don't
    mess with it", then we'll leave it at the. If the mood is "The OSonOS is
    fine, let's make it even more fine", then we might start with an
    appreciative inquiry right here on the list - I'd be happy to get it going.

    What do you think?

    Cheers

    Alex

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