Harrison, drawing lines is interesting business, considering Buddhist teacher Thich Nhat Hahn's suggestion that there is no being, only interbeing. His practice is seeing the people in the objects and the objects in the people. When nothing exists by itself, it contains everything else - and so the respect for every quantum wave in the universal field.
Jack ~~~~~~~~~~ jack ricchiuto two.one.six/three.seven.three/seven.four.seven.five www.designinglife.com / www.appreciativeleadership.org ------------Original Message------------ From: Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Date: Tue, Feb-15-2005 8:33 AM Subject: Re: On self-organizing Masud -- I know the devil made me do it -- but when I saw your words, "For instance, do we give more respect to "non-living" weapons systems or to living "human systems"?" -- I found myself answering, "Human Systems, of course, at least usually -- but what happens when the human systems are in fact weapons systems? And where do you draw the line between them anyhow? Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Masud Sheikh Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:03 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: On self-organizing Filiz Telek wrote: >Masud, > >I guess you are referring TV as non-living in the physical sense...well, >doesn't it all depend on how we define living versus non-living? :) >Maybe I am taking your comment too literally...but here are some quotes >that might be interesting... > Thank you for the quotes, Filiz. You are right that I am talking only about the physical TV set. And my comment that "perhaps I understand" was related to the sort of quotes that you gave. Of course, in one sense, "humans never die". Buried or cremated, they change form, and in some way, feed the new cycle of life. But does not there need to be a difference bertween the way we "treat" living systems vs "non-living" systems? For instance, do we give more respect to "non-living" weapons systems or to living "human systems"? Masud * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist